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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Since the Saints aren't in the playoffs, again, I thought I'd go look at a mock draft or two since we won't have a lot else to talk about for a while. This one had some interesting picks. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm My ...
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Since the Saints aren't in the playoffs, again, I thought I'd go look at a mock draft or two since we won't have a lot else to talk about for a while.
This one had some interesting picks. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm My only ground rule is none of the, "No way the CB from Southeast Idaho State finishing school for young ladies makes it out of the 2nd round, much less the second day." I just hate that. Anyway, here are the Saints projected picks. I don't agree with them because it looks like Haslett will still be around, so we'll be picking someone from Georgia and a DT, maybe the same player, but we will take both of those in the first four picks. 18.New Orleans Saints PICK: Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State Gamble has the athletic ability to be a top CB. The Saints take the potential over the sure thing in Derrick Strait. The Saints have an aging group of CB’s and none of them have shut down ability. Gamble does and though he’s raw, could become the top flight CB the Saints have been looking for. 48.New Orleans Saints PICK: JP Losman, QB, Tulane Let the controvery begin. Local boy Losman has a world of talent, but then again so does Aaron Brooks. What’s clear though is that the Saints and their fans are beginning to tire of Brooks and might not have much more time to turn it around. So they bypass some needs and take out a little insurance policy. 60.New Orleans Saints (via St. Louis) PICK: Dontarrious Thomas, OLB, Auburn With their second 2nd, the Saints get Thomas. It’s unclear whether Sedrick Hodge will be back and both Hodge and Derrick Rodgers have struggled to meet expectations. 81.New Orleans Saints PICK: Ernest Wilford, WR, Virginia Tech Saints get a big target for Aaron Brooks. [Edited on 13/1/2004 by BrooksMustGo] |
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I\'ve got no problem with any of those picks, although the odds of Haslett and Co. using a 2nd round pick for a third string QB FROM THE STATE seems about as unlikely as them dealing Brooks to the Panthers to get Delhomme back.
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updated 12/29/03 Mock doesn\'t necessarily reflect rankings..MOCK BY TEAM # TEAM W-L OPP W-L % PICK 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh 2. Oakland 4-12 .516 Roy Williams, WR, Texas 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi 5. Washington 5-11 .531 Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Sean Taylor, FS, Miami 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Reggie Williams, WR, Washington 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Kellen Winslow Jr, TE, Miami 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon State 15. Tampa Bay 7-9 .508 Michael Clayton, WR, LSU 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 DeAngelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 Randy Starks, DT, Maryland 18. New Orleans 8-8 .500 Derrick Strait, CB, Oklahoma 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 Will Smith, DE, Ohio State 20. Miami 10-6 .512 Rashaun Woods, WR, NC State 21. New England (BAL) 10-6 .457 Chris Perry, RB, Michigan 22. Dallas 10-6 .461 Kenechi Udeze, DE, Southern Cal 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas 24. Green Bay 10-6 .488 Philip Rivers, QB, NC State 25. Denver 10-6 .500 David Pollack, DE, Georgia 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 DJ Williams, OLB, Miami 27. St. Louis 12-4 .434 Ben Troupe, TE, Florida 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 Vernon Carey, G/T, Miami 29. Indianapolis 12-4 .492 Marlin Jackson, CB, Michigan 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio State 31. Philadelphia 12-4 .477 Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan 32. New England 14-2 .484 Karlos Dansby, OLB, Auburn 2nd ROUND 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Nat Dorsey, OT, Georgia Tech 2. Houston (OAK) 4-12 .516 FORFEITED 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 Nathan Vasher, CB, Texas 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Justin Smiley, G, Alabama 5. Washington 5-11 .531 Teddy Lehman, OLB, Oklahoma 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Will Poole, CB, Southern Cal 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Lee Evans, WR, Wisconsin 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 Jamaal Brimmer, SS, UNLV 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Antwaan Odom, DE, Alabama 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Tony Pape, OT, Michigan 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 Matt Ware, DB, UCLA 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Rod Davis, ILB, Southern Miss 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Stuart Schweigert, FS, Purdue 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 Michael Munoz, OT, Tennessee 15. Oakland (TB) 7-9 .508 JP Losman, QB, Tulane 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 Shaun Cody, DT, Southern Cal 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 Corey Webster, CB, LSU 18. New Orleans 8-8 .500 Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 Brandon Everage, FS, Oklahoma 20. New England (Mia) 10-6 .512 Dave Ball, DE, UCLA 21. Baltimore 10-6 .457 James Newson, WR, Oregon State 22. Dallas 10-6 .461 Carnell Williams, RB, Auburn 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Max Starks, OT, Florida 24. Green Bay 10-6 .488 Darnell Dockett, DT, Florida State 25. Denver 10-6 .500 Ben Watson, TE, Georgia 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 Keiwan Ratliff, CB, Florida 27. New Orleans (STL) 12-4 .434 Shannon Snell, G, Florida 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 Nick Leckey, C, Kansas State 29. Indianapolis 12-4 .492 Chad Lavalais, DT, LSU 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Carlos Joseph, OT, Miami 31. Philadelphia 12-4 .477 Lawrence Richardson, CB, Arkansas 32. New England 14-2 .484 Jonathan Vilma, ILB, Miami 3rd ROUND 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Drew Henson, QB, Michigan 2. Oakland 4-12 .516 Marcus Tubbs, DT, Texas 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 Ben Wilkerson, C, LSU 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Greg Jones, RB, Florida State 5. Washington 5-11 .531 Madieu Williams, SS, Maryland 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Cedric Cobbs, RB, Arkansas 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Donnell Washington, DT, Clemson 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 Chris Canty, DE, Virginia 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Jonathan Jackson, DE, Oklahoma 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Issac Sopoaga, DT, Hawaii 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 Travelle Wharton, OT, South Carolina 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Derrick Hamilton, WR, Clemson 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Cody Pickett, QB, Washington 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 Marcus Jasmin, DT, Texas A&M 15. Tampa Bay 7-9 .508 Ahmad Carroll, CB, Arkansas 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 Jericho Cotchery, WR, NC State 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 Cedrick Houston, RB, Tennessee 18. New Orleans 8-8 .500 Richard Siegler, ILB, Oregon State 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 Dunta Robinson, CB, South Carolina 20. Miami* 10-6 .512 Jacob Rogers, OT, USC 21. Baltimore 10-6 .457 Marcell Almond, CB, USC 22. Dallas 10-6 .461 Ernest Wilford, WR, Virginia Tech 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Regis Crawford, G, Arizona State 24. Green Bay 10-6 .488 Michael Boulware, OLB, Florida State 25. Denver 10-6 .500 Darius Watts, WR, Marshall 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 Ben Utecht, TE, Minnesota 27. St.Louis* 12-4 .434 Antonio Hall, OT, Kentucky 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 CJ Brooks, OT, Maryland 29. Indianapolis 12-4 .492 BJ Johnson, WR, Texas 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Monreko Crittenden, G, Auburn 31. Philadelphia 12-4 .477 Dontarrious Thomas, OLB, Auburn 32. New England 14-2 .484 Jason Shivers, SS, Arizona State 4th ROUND 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Marquise Hill, DE, LSU 2. Oakland 4-12 .516 Ricardo Colcough, CB, Tusculum 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 DeMarco McNeil, DT, Auburn 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Tommy Kelly, DT, Mississippi State 5. Washington 5-11 .531 Michael Turner, RB, Northern Illinois 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Jeff Smoker, QB, Michigan State 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Guss Scott, SS, Florida 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 John Navarre, QB, Michigan 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Alex Barron, OT, Florida State 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Jeremy LeSueur, CB, Michigan 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 Cedric Benson, RB, Texas 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Keyaron Fox, OLB, Georgia Tech 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Brandon Kennedy, DT, North Texas 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 Kris Wilson, TE, Pittsburgh 15. Tampa Bay 7-9 .508 David Baas, G, Michigan 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma State 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 Adrien Clarke, G, Ohio State 18. New England (NO) 8-8 .500 Bernard Berrien, WR, Fresno State 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 Kendyll Pope, OLB, Florida State 20. Miami 10-6 .512 Dexter Reid, FS, North Carolina 21. Baltimore 10-6 .457 Calvin Armstrong, OT, Washington State 22. Dallas 10-6 .461 Dwon Edwards, DT, Oregon State 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Joey Thomas, CB, Montana State 24. Green Bay 10-6 .488 Brian Rimpf, OT, East Carolina 25. Denver 10-6 .500 Casey Clausen, QB, Tennessee 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 Geoff McArthur, WR, California 27. St.Louis 12-4 .434 Vontez Duff, CB, Notre Dame 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 Greg Brooks, CB, Southern Miss 29. Houston (Ind) 12-4 .492 Issac Hilton, DE/OLB, Hampton 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Matt Schaub, QB, Virginia 31. Atlanta (Phi) 12-4 .477 Keith Smith, CB, McNeese State 32. New England 14-2 .484 Patrick Kabongo, DT, Nebraska 5th ROUND 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Courtney Watson, OLB, Notre Dame 2. Oakland 4-12 .516 Daryl Smith, ILB, Georgia Tech 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 Marcus Spears, DE, LSU 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Johnnie Morant, WR, Syracuse 5. Washington 5-11 .531 Bobby McCray, DE, Florida 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Greg Taplin, DE, Michigan State 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Mewelde Moore, RB, Tulane 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 Darrion Scott, DE, Ohio State 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Quincy Wilson, RB, West Virginia 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Derek McCoy, WR, Colorado 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 Claude Harriott, DE, Pittsburgh 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Bobby Purify, RB, Colorado 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Roderick Green, DE/OLB, Central Missouri State 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 Jenaro Gilford, CB, Brigham Young 15. Tampa Bay 7-9 .508 Kellen Brantley, OLB, Wake Forest 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 Kelly Butler, OT, Purdue 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 Pasha Jackson, OLB, Oklahoma 18. New Orleans 8-8 .500 Shane Olivea, OT, Ohio State 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 Jake Grove, C, Virginia Tech 20. Miami 10-6 .512 Scott Wells, C, Tennessee 21. Baltimore 10-6 .457 Rashad Washington, SS, Kansas State 22. Dallas 10-6 .461 Marques Harris, OLB, Colorado 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Nikos Kotouivides, ILB, Purdue 24. Green Bay 10-6 .488 Samie Parker, WR, Oregon 25. Denver 10-6 .500 Keary Colbert, WR, USC 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 Josh Harris, QB, Bowling Green 27. St.Louis 12-4 .434 Lousaka Polite, FB, Pittsburgh 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 Tim Euhus, TE, Oregon State 29. Indianapolis 12-4 .492 DeMorrio Williams, OLB, Wisconsin 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Greg Richmond, OLB, Oklahoma State 31. Philadelphia 12-4 .477 Rod Rutherford, QB, Pittsburgh 32. New England 14-2 .484 Luke McCown, QB, Louisiana Tech 6th ROUND 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Jonas Rutledge, CB, Southern Methodist 2. Oakland 4-12 .516 Keith Lewis, FS, Oregon 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 Derek Abney, WR, Kentucky 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Arnold Parker, CB, Utah 5. Washington 5-11 .531 Curome Cox, CB, Maryland 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Craig Bragg, WR, UCLA 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Shawntae Spencer, CB, Pittsburgh 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 Michael Jolivette, CB, Arizona 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Igor Olshansky, DT, Oregon 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Carl Diggs, ILB, Michigan 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 AJ Ricker, C, Missouri 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Jared Lorenzen, QB, Kentucky 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Marcus Houston, RB, Colorado State 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 Alex Lewis, OLB, Wisconsin 15. Tampa Bay 7-9 .508 Clarence Farmer, RB, Arizona 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 Josh Buhl, OLB, Kansas State 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 Ben Hall, TE, Clemson 18. New Orleans 8-8 .500 Jason Wright, RB, Northwestern 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 Ben Hartsock, TE, Ohio State 20. San Diego (MIA) 10-6 .512 Derrick Knight, RB, Boston College 21. Baltimore 10-6 .457 Mike Labinjo, ILB, Michigan State 22. Green Bay (DAL) 10-6 .461 Bo Schobel, DE, Texas Christian 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Anthony Bryant, DT, Alabama 24. Philadelphia (GB) 10-6 .488 Kalen Thornton, DE, Texas 25. Denver 10-6 .500 Kevin Mitchell, OLB, Oregon 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 Nathaniel Adibi, DE, Virginia Tech 27. Pittsburgh (STL) 12-4 .434 Will Allen, FS, Ohio State 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 Jason Geathers, WR, Miami 29. Indianapolis 12-4 .492 Shaun Phillips, DE, Purdue 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Janssen Patton, CB, Bowling Green 31. Philadelphia 12-4 .477 Marvin Jackson, CB, Chadron State 32. New England 14-2 .484 Lousaka Pollite, FB, Pittsburgh 7th ROUND 1. San Diego 4-12 .504 Corey Williams, DT, Arkansas State 2. Oakland 4-12 .516 John Leake, OLB, Clemson 3. Arizona 4-12 .543 Rodney Reed, OT, LSU 4. New York Giants 4-12 .555 Gabe Nyenhuis, DE, Colorado 5. Denver (WAS) 5-11 .531 Stephen Peterman, G, LSU 6. Detroit 5-11 .535 Nick Duffy, ILB, Northern Illinois 7. (t)Atlanta 5-11 .539 Travis LaBoy, DE, Hawaii 8. (t)Cleveland 5-11 .539 Ran Carthon, RB, FLorida 9. Jacksonville 5-11 .543 Matt Kegel, QB, Washington State 10. Houston 5-11 .570 Brandon Miree, RB, Pittsburgh 11. Pittsburgh 6-10 .500 Uyi Osunde, OLB/DE, Connecticut 12. New York Jets 6-10 .527 Marwan Hage, G, Colorado 13. Buffalo 6-10 .570 Jonathan Smith, WR, Georgia Tech 14. Chicago 7-9 .488 BJ Symons, QB, Texas Tech 15. Tampa Bay 7-9 .508 Kevin Youngblood, WR, Clemson 16. San Francisco 7-9 .512 Alex Holmes, TE, Southern Cal 17. Cincinnati 8-8 .457 John Standeford, WR, Purdue 18. Miami (NO) 8-8 .500 Ryan Dinwiddie, QB, Boise State 19. Minnesota 9-7 .457 DJ Hackett, WR, Colorado 20. Miami 10-6 .512 Rashad Baker, FS, Tennessee 21. Baltimore 10-6 .457 Tony Johnson, WR, Penn State 22. Dallas 10-6 .461 Jim Sorgi, QB, Wisconsin 23. Seattle 10-6 .465 Triandos Luke, WR, Alabama 24. Green Bay 10-6 .488 Mark Pierce, FB, Arkansas 25. Denver 10-6 .500 Ahmad Childress, DT, Alabama 26. Carolina 11-5 .445 Amon Gordon, DT, Stanford 27. St.Louis 12-4 .434 Tyson Clabo, G, Wake Forest 28. Tennessee 12-4 .473 Huey Whitaker, WR, South Florida 29. Indianapolis 12-4 .492 Roderick Royal, ILB, McNeese State 30. Kansas City 13-3 .418 Nate Kaeding, K, Iowa 31. Philadelphia 12-4 .477 Alex Stepanovich, C, Ohio State 32. New England 14-2 .484 Stacy Andrews, OT, Mississippi |
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I\'ll say this - if we draft an O-lineman and he\'s not a true tackle I\'m going to go apesh!t. We\'ve got about 47 inside linemen and not tackles... well Gandy, but what\'s he pushing? 60?
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Linebacker! Linebacker! Linebacker!
I\'d be tickled black and gold to see Thomas out of Auburn fall to us in the second. I would also love to see us nab Rod Davis out of Southern Miss. I think that Haslett should be limited to one offensive/defensive lineman this year (no higher than third round). Maybe we could put one of those shock-collars around his neck... |
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Maybe we could just put a shock collar on his neck anyway. Buzz the cr@p out of him when he calls a 0 hole dive on 3rd and 1.
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MOST MOCKS ARE CRAP... QB in round 2??? THEY DONE LOST THERE MINE... obviously they haven\'t done there homework on the teams.
ami2kind4words: What are you smoking... Eli the 4th pick??? If the chargers don\'t take manning there will be a trade down so someone else can get manning |
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