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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328207)

"WINNING IS AN ATTITUDE".

It's clear you don't have it.

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"FIRST EVER SELLOUT"

You still have that bumper sticker? Fits you perfectly.

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"2011 SEASON TICKET WINNER".

That sounds about right.

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Stop running your mouth when you have no idea what you're talking about.

Okay okay, so you're not a Falcons fan. So from your post so far, you're the type of Saints fan that blast the Saints after a loss and hope back on after a win.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...BandWagon2.jpg

Yea I was being extreme... saw what I did?

Took a page out of your book.

Take a chill pill... it's going to be a hell of a season. The sky is not falling.

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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328213)

No. I've been a fan since 1967 and a season ticket holder since the late 80s. I didn't want to bore everyone by listing the contents of every package for 20+ years. I think 2005 and 2006 are probably the most telling. Some of us didn't give up on the them. That doesn't make me some kind of eternal optimist though. The Saints are what they are.

So, you didn't give up on them back then but you are giving up on them now? BTW, I don't count attending the games and badmouthing them the whole time as supporting them. Quite frankly, if you act at the games the way you have in this thread I am sure some of your neighbors would prefer you stayed at home.

I can't imagine how miserable it must be to sit near such a negative nancy.

And I am sorry to hear you are old enough to have been a fan in the 60's. I had hoped you were just very young and that you might grow out of it. But, given your age that's probably not going to happen. You are going to remain this way. It's sad, but no one is going to remember you as a stand up guy. This is your legacy.

Well, we really didn't trade a first round pick for Ingram. We gave up a second round pick in order to swap our 2011 1st for NE's 2010 1st.

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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328135)

Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 .......

Yous maybe right. But I figure with the talent we have we will be a lot closer to 11 than your 2.

But back to grading Loomis. Well it was not about just one player. Please can we give a few games first.

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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328261)

I don't know how this thread started being about me instead of Mickey Loomis but no. Most of the people around me probably think I'm too laid back. At games I'm very stoic. I make noise when the other team has the ball and am pretty quiet when we do. While I frequently put my face in my hands when we do something boneheaded, you will rarely here me say anything particularly bad. As for being old, yes. Believe it or not, I played high school football against Archie Manning. That was before he bacame "Archie Manning" of course. As far as what people think about me; only a couple of people matter and the list only includes my wife and kids. For the record, my kids think I'm way too pessimistic but my wife, who has been through 40+ years of being a Saints fan is more like I am....

NOW; back to Loomis! I think it was a mistake to trade a 1st round pick for ANYONE. I didn't agree with it at the time and I don't agree with it now.

Listen to your kids.
Now you're starting to sound more like a Saints fan. Just take a few deep breaths and remember we all went through that loss. I still want to look for the positives and remain optimistic that we can and will play better.
There is nothing wrong with questioning the system. We all do it from time to time.