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jeanpierre 09-09-2011 06:56 AM
Want to Grade Loomis Now?
 
...or wait a few more games?

Some of those FA acquisitions weren't really there when the real bullets started to fly...

Neaux, Loomis didn't blow the coverages or miss the tackles...

My point is, wait a few more games then you can assess the grades up and down the organization...

papz 09-09-2011 07:03 AM
Uh...

A.

We just went down to the wire with the defending Superbowl Champs. One game isn't going to start swaying people into your line of thinking Loomis is an idiot. He has an outstanding resume and consider one of the best in the league by the majority of the league.

I really want to bust a Choup here but that would just be mean.

BringTheWood 09-09-2011 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 328090)
Uh...

A.

We just went down to the wire with the defending Superbowl Champs. One game isn't going to start swaying people into your line of thinking Loomis is an idiot. He has an outstanding resume and consider one of the best in the league by the majority of the league.

I really want to bust a Choup here but that would just be mean.
This. Anyone with half a brain would've loved the moves Loomis made. It's not his fault that GW can't seem to plan a scheme that would stop a high school team, or that our guys just can't seem to tackle. Loomis gets an A, period. Our team last night, specifically the D, doesn't.

papz 09-09-2011 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328100)
Based on what we saw last night, he traded Andrew Luck for mark ingram. I have to go with "idiot".
How does this even make a shred of sense?

jeanpierre 09-09-2011 07:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by papz (Post 328090)
Uh...

A.

We just went down to the wire with the defending Superbowl Champs. One game isn't going to start swaying people into your line of thinking Loomis is an idiot. He has an outstanding resume and consider one of the best in the league by the majority of the league.

I really want to bust a Choup here but that would just be mean.
If you'd read my entire post, that's exactly what I just said; wait a few games then assess grades...

BringTheWood 09-09-2011 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328100)
Based on what we saw last night, he traded Andrew Luck for mark ingram. I have to go with "idiot".
Really? After one game?

EDIT: After one PLAY?

Euphoria 09-09-2011 07:41 AM
Ok I am convinced after reading most of the posts since the game that they should turn the internet off after a Saints loss because people will write the most stupid stuff.

I did like the suicide hotline post that... very fitting.

bbourque5 09-09-2011 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328100)
Based on what we saw last night, he traded Andrew Luck for mark ingram. I have to go with "idiot".
IMO, It wasn't ingrams fault our O line was in the back field for that particular play. Ingram was an excellent pickup now we just need to pick up some great O-lineman next year in free agency or the draft. GB controlled the line of scrimmage last night, and although that alone didn't win them the game, it was a very significant factor in their victory. EVERYBODY CHILL. I'm p-oed that we lost this game, and I'm very disappointed in our defensive play, but look at at least one bright spot, we have a legit return man that doesn't do backwards cartwheels and MC hammer dances on returns, he just hauls tail. Loomis is not the reason we lost last night.

SapperSaint 09-09-2011 07:56 AM
Darren Sproles A Freakin +++++++

If you think Mark Ingram was a stupid draft pick, you have a very wierd sense/idea of what a good football players is.

I may be wrong..... but I'm gonna ask you at the end of the year if you still feel Mark Ingram was a wasted pick.

Ashley 09-09-2011 08:01 AM
I say we really can't judge yet... But I still have the grade as a A for now.

Cam Jordan, just have not seen him do anything yet. Hell I never even heard his name being called either.

jnormand 09-09-2011 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 328109)
Ok I am convinced after reading most of the posts since the game that they should turn the internet off after a Saints loss because people will write the most stupid stuff.

I did like the suicide hotline post that... very fitting.
No kidding!

SapperSaint 09-09-2011 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328129)
I'll be here.
I know brother.

MorningWood 09-09-2011 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328100)
Based on what we saw last night, he traded Andrew Luck for mark ingram. I have to go with "idiot".

You can't honestly believe that we are going to have the worst record in the NFL, so that must mean you just like to say stupid crap after a loss.

Saint_LB 09-09-2011 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328135)
Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 and will qualify for the first pick, which we no longer have. That's Andrew Luck for mark ingram. Understand now?
Nope...I don't. I understand that you are saying that we won't win more than 2 games, but what I don't understand is how you can possibly think that is true. I would be willing to put my money where my mouth is, though...would you?

papz 09-09-2011 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328135)
Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 and will qualify for the first pick, which we no longer have. That's Andrew Luck for mark ingram. Understand now?
While that appears to be in English, I don't understand Failclown. You are on the wrong message board.

strato 09-09-2011 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328135)
Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 and will qualify for the first pick, which we no longer have. That's Andrew Luck for mark ingram. Understand now?

This has to be the stupidest post of the year...i will bookmark it and hand out your award later..:p

MorningWood 09-09-2011 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328160)
No point in making an internet bet with some anonymous person but just for fun, let's hear your prediction and then we can take this up in January.

You can't possibly be dumb enough to think that we are going to have the worst record in the NFL. So, that must mean you are just letting your emotions get the best of you. Try to man up and not be so emo.

jeanpierre 09-09-2011 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 328115)
Darren Sproles A Freakin +++++++

If you think Mark Ingram was a stupid draft pick, you have a very wierd sense/idea of what a good football players is.

I may be wrong..... but I'm gonna ask you at the end of the year if you still feel Mark Ingram was a wasted pick.
Like I said, wait a few games...

jeanpierre 09-09-2011 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by strato (Post 328174)
This has to be the stupidest post of the year...i will bookmark it and hand out your award later..:p
anh, anh, anh...No Name Calling...

What's good for the who dats should be good for the mods ;)

strato 09-09-2011 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 328180)
anh, anh, anh...No Name Calling...

What's good for the who dats should be good for the mods ;)

There was no name calling here..just called the post stupid...this guy might be a genius ..but this post is stupid and uncalled for..calling him a Falcqueens fan is worse to me...but i wonder..:doh:

papz 09-09-2011 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328179)
So if you're pessimistic, that makes you a falcons fan?
Fixed that for you. No predicting us to go 2-14 does... that's something a clueless over the top Falcons fan would do.

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I've been a Saints fan since the beginning, and have stuck with them from the bag days through the Championship. I even attended the 2005 games in Baton Rouge and there weren't many of us. You could just about go around and introduce yourself to all who were there. I've had Saints season tickets since the 80s. How long have you had season tickets?
Why do I find this so hard to believe? Did you lose a bet that made you buy Saints tickets? That would be one hell of a bet.

Poydras if you're reading this, I think you need to put a muzzle on him. All that bird poop is coming out the wrong end.

jnormand 09-09-2011 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328135)
Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 and will qualify for the first pick, which we no longer have. That's Andrew Luck for mark ingram. Understand now?
I'm not going to question your fandom....but after this little comment I will question your understaning of the game. You're not being a realist....your making over dramatic and insubstantiated comments after a loss. There is no reason to believe this team will only win two games this year. You just set yourself up to be mocked and made fun of for the rest of the season. Stop defending your comment and trying to justify it. It's making you look ridiculous.

strato 09-09-2011 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328207)
Don't believe me? Do you know what bumper sticker was inclosed with the 2005 season ticket package? It was a single word; "FAITH". I know because in retrospect, after the Saints and the season were washed away by Katrina, along with most of the Gulf Coast, it was kinda funny. Know what it was the next year? "WINNING IS AN ATTITUDE". I also got a flag saying "FIRST EVER SELLOUT" that year. Want to know what the bumper sticker was this year? There wasn't one, just a windshield sticker that said "2011 SEASON TICKET OWNER". Stop running your mouth when you have no idea what you're talking about.

So you been a fan since 05?..now i see

bbourque5 09-09-2011 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328207)
Don't believe me? Do you know what bumper sticker was inclosed with the 2005 season ticket package? It was a single word; "FAITH". I know because in retrospect, after the Saints and the season were washed away by Katrina, along with most of the Gulf Coast, it was kinda funny. Know what it was the next year? "WINNING IS AN ATTITUDE". I also got a flag saying "FIRST EVER SELLOUT" that year. Want to know what the bumper sticker was this year? There wasn't one, just a windshield sticker that said "2011 SEASON TICKET OWNER". Stop running your mouth when you have no idea what you're talking about.
I believe you are a saints fan. But I also believe your comments are an extreme over reaction. I understand being mad about this loss, I was p-oed as well. the lesson you need to learn is to refrain from posting so soon after a loss. Just say all these things to yourself in the mirror and blow it off. You know darn well we are not going to finish 2-14, so why post it. I'm not hating on you, just trying to give you some perspective. and about your pessimistic/realistic comment, you were in no way being realistic, you were obviously being pessimistic.

papz 09-09-2011 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328207)
"WINNING IS AN ATTITUDE".
It's clear you don't have it.

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"FIRST EVER SELLOUT"
You still have that bumper sticker? Fits you perfectly.

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"2011 SEASON TICKET WINNER".
That sounds about right.

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Stop running your mouth when you have no idea what you're talking about.
Okay okay, so you're not a Falcons fan. So from your post so far, you're the type of Saints fan that blast the Saints after a loss and hope back on after a win.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...BandWagon2.jpg

papz 09-09-2011 10:54 AM
Yea I was being extreme... saw what I did?

Took a page out of your book.

Take a chill pill... it's going to be a hell of a season. The sky is not falling.

MorningWood 09-09-2011 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328213)
No. I've been a fan since 1967 and a season ticket holder since the late 80s. I didn't want to bore everyone by listing the contents of every package for 20+ years. I think 2005 and 2006 are probably the most telling. Some of us didn't give up on the them. That doesn't make me some kind of eternal optimist though. The Saints are what they are.

So, you didn't give up on them back then but you are giving up on them now? BTW, I don't count attending the games and badmouthing them the whole time as supporting them. Quite frankly, if you act at the games the way you have in this thread I am sure some of your neighbors would prefer you stayed at home.

I can't imagine how miserable it must be to sit near such a negative nancy.

And I am sorry to hear you are old enough to have been a fan in the 60's. I had hoped you were just very young and that you might grow out of it. But, given your age that's probably not going to happen. You are going to remain this way. It's sad, but no one is going to remember you as a stand up guy. This is your legacy.

MorningWood 09-09-2011 12:08 PM
Well, we really didn't trade a first round pick for Ingram. We gave up a second round pick in order to swap our 2011 1st for NE's 2010 1st.

UK_WhoDat 09-09-2011 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328135)
Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 .......
Yous maybe right. But I figure with the talent we have we will be a lot closer to 11 than your 2.

But back to grading Loomis. Well it was not about just one player. Please can we give a few games first.

Rugby Saint II 09-09-2011 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 328261)
I don't know how this thread started being about me instead of Mickey Loomis but no. Most of the people around me probably think I'm too laid back. At games I'm very stoic. I make noise when the other team has the ball and am pretty quiet when we do. While I frequently put my face in my hands when we do something boneheaded, you will rarely here me say anything particularly bad. As for being old, yes. Believe it or not, I played high school football against Archie Manning. That was before he bacame "Archie Manning" of course. As far as what people think about me; only a couple of people matter and the list only includes my wife and kids. For the record, my kids think I'm way too pessimistic but my wife, who has been through 40+ years of being a Saints fan is more like I am....

NOW; back to Loomis! I think it was a mistake to trade a 1st round pick for ANYONE. I didn't agree with it at the time and I don't agree with it now.
Listen to your kids.
Now you're starting to sound more like a Saints fan. Just take a few deep breaths and remember we all went through that loss. I still want to look for the positives and remain optimistic that we can and will play better.
There is nothing wrong with questioning the system. We all do it from time to time.


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