But I already know it would be a complete waste of time to argue with you about Loomis. I am assuming you follow the team and are not ignorant of how far this team has come under him.

You are just spoiled. There is nothing I can do about that (other than point and laugh).

He hired Payton; that was his big break and the team is better for it...

Giving him credit for all the success of the franchise is like giving Ugh the Neanderthal credit for the Porsche, the Space Shuttle, and Hooters just because he started it all off with the discovery of fire...