Payton doesnt reget final play call Thursday night

WhoDat!656 · 09-10-2011, 05:00 PM

Sean Payton on final play call: We had a chance to punch it in | ProFootballTalk

NOS2SB · 09-10-2011, 05:39 PM

We just played the toughest team in the league. Realistically, we can win the next 8 games.

papz · 09-10-2011, 05:42 PM

One of the great offensive minds in the game... I wouldn't want him second guessing himself either.

WhoDat!656 · 09-10-2011, 06:01 PM

I was screaming for the Saints to give the ball to Ingram!!

homerj07 · 09-10-2011, 07:57 PM

I was just screaming...

strato · 09-11-2011, 02:00 AM

Wake up!..bad call..you cant run against a 9 man front...sorry Payton you ****ed up..

Crusader · 09-11-2011, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by strato

Wake up!..bad call..you cant run against a 9 man front...sorry Payton you ****ed up..

Yes you can, thats what you usually do on goal line. In reality it is just a matter of getting push on 1 or 2 guys right infront of the ballcarrier.

strato · 09-11-2011, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Yes you can, thats what you usually do on goal line. In reality it is just a matter of getting push on 1 or 2 guys right infront of the ballcarrier.

Your right C ..we should be able to...but GB had stuffed us before...and in that crucial situation you have to be a little more creative..I wish we would try using the FB some to..

SaintsBro · 09-11-2011, 09:20 AM

I was thinking at the time, that the intent all along was to punch it in first with Ingram, and then I was feeling they would go to Jimmy Graham for the 2 point conversion. That goal line play they've done before, where Jimmy just kinda walks three steps into the end zone, turns around and catches it. I felt like that play was definitely in the mix.

But because of the situation, you really needed to run TWO different back-to-back scoring plays in that exact same spot.... Doubtful that you could run the same exact play twice and it would work, so no matter how you slice it, one play pretty much needed to be a big-push run up the gut, and the other needed to be something else....it's better to risk punching it in first, because THEN you have all the creative options on the table for the 2 point conversion, you have the corners of the end zone, tight ends, Drew roll outs, and still possibly a run. You score on a fancy play first, it kind of takes away the fancy plays for when you need to go for 2.

I don't really second guess this play call one bit, not in the least.

Banjojoe · 09-11-2011, 09:46 AM

I guess it's easy for us sitting at home and calling plays after the fact. But, during the heat of the game, when you have no timeouts left to think things over, is another thing. However, I still feel that the Saints had the Pack where they wanted them - thinking run. So load the backfield as if you are going to run and let Drew run right on a quarterback keeper. The play would have worked because

1. It looks like run - you have all your running backs in there;
2. Drew almost never runs.
3. It usually works for other teams against us!

As I said before: looking back is a whole lot easier than in the heat of the game. But why SP adheres to the idea that this was the best call after looking at the film is another question.

Banjojoe

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,040	Originally Posted by strato Wake up!..bad call..you cant run against a 9 man front...sorry Payton you ****ed up.. Yes you can, thats what you usually do on goal line. In reality it is just a matter of getting push on 1 or 2 guys right infront of the ballcarrier.

09-11-2011, 08:29 AM	#8
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Crusader Yes you can, thats what you usually do on goal line. In reality it is just a matter of getting push on 1 or 2 guys right infront of the ballcarrier. Your right C ..we should be able to...but GB had stuffed us before...and in that crucial situation you have to be a little more creative..I wish we would try using the FB some to..

09-11-2011, 09:46 AM	#10
Banjojoe Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 19	I guess it's easy for us sitting at home and calling plays after the fact. But, during the heat of the game, when you have no timeouts left to think things over, is another thing. However, I still feel that the Saints had the Pack where they wanted them - thinking run. So load the backfield as if you are going to run and let Drew run right on a quarterback keeper. The play would have worked because 1. It looks like run - you have all your running backs in there; 2. Drew almost never runs. 3. It usually works for other teams against us! As I said before: looking back is a whole lot easier than in the heat of the game. But why SP adheres to the idea that this was the best call after looking at the film is another question. Banjojoe
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NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	We just played the toughest team in the league. Realistically, we can win the next 8 games.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	One of the great offensive minds in the game... I wouldn't want him second guessing himself either.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	I was screaming for the Saints to give the ball to Ingram!!

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homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	I was just screaming...

09-11-2011, 02:00 AM	#6
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Wake up!..bad call..you cant run against a 9 man front...sorry Payton you ****ed up..

09-11-2011, 09:20 AM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	I was thinking at the time, that the intent all along was to punch it in first with Ingram, and then I was feeling they would go to Jimmy Graham for the 2 point conversion. That goal line play they've done before, where Jimmy just kinda walks three steps into the end zone, turns around and catches it. I felt like that play was definitely in the mix. But because of the situation, you really needed to run TWO different back-to-back scoring plays in that exact same spot.... Doubtful that you could run the same exact play twice and it would work, so no matter how you slice it, one play pretty much needed to be a big-push run up the gut, and the other needed to be something else....it's better to risk punching it in first, because THEN you have all the creative options on the table for the 2 point conversion, you have the corners of the end zone, tight ends, Drew roll outs, and still possibly a run. You score on a fancy play first, it kind of takes away the fancy plays for when you need to go for 2. I don't really second guess this play call one bit, not in the least.