Roman Harper - NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Danno · 09-20-2011, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Same as not being worth it..lol....that was my biggest gripe about Harper..the money...if he keeps popping the QB and learns to cover better..i will change my mind on that to...How about Junyah he has as many sacks..and some people still want him cut????..I guess it all depends on the fan.

Who wants JUNIOR cut? He's played damn good.

strato · 09-20-2011, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I think if Harper's list of primary concerns has Johnson and Daniels up high on it, then that would be bad game planning. Let's have our in the box blitzing strong safety focus on attacking their line of scrimmage and change Schaub's line of sight. Why put our players in a position to not maximize their abilities?

I agree ..but the Texans have been watching film on that nightmare in Seattle ..and they will try and expose him..if he can just run with them and get help over the top..or at least wrap up after the catch..Ive been listening to some of the radio here...they are well aware of his lack of coverage skills..so G.W needs to make sure he has some help...The one that scares me the most and you really cant stop is A.J..he will get his...we just have to stop everyone else..

Danno · 09-20-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by strato

I agree ..but the Texans have been watching film on that nightmare in Seattle ..and they will try and expose him....

You mean the Seattle game where he made 2 mistakes the entire game?

I'll bet their licking their chops looking at the Lynch run moreso than those two Harper plays, one of which was a fake lay dawn and act blocked trick play.

The only reason they'll target Harper is because they won't target Greer, Porter or Jenkins. My guess is they attack our weakass LB's on the edge.

Every team wants to target a SS matched up against a stud TE. Thats nothing new in this league. Harper holds his own for a SS.

Brees would target a SS against Graham also, regardless of who that SS is.

strato · 09-20-2011, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You mean the Seattle game where he made 2 mistakes the entire game?

I'll bet their licking their chops looking at the Lynch run moreso than those two Harper plays, one of which was a fake lay dawn and act blocked trick play.

The only reason they'll target Harper is because they won't target Greer, Porter or Jenkins. My guess is they attack our weakass LB's on the edge.

Every team wants to target a SS matched up against a stud TE. Thats nothing new in this league. Harper holds his own for a SS.

Yeah that one.. where every Saints fan was cussing him for falling for the Okie Doke

Danno · 09-20-2011, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Yeah that one.. where every Saints fan was cussing him for falling for the Okie Doke

So you think the Texans will be targeting Harper all game with the Okie Doke huh?

My guess is their determining ways to prevent Harper from knocking Schaub out of the game.

strato · 09-20-2011, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So you think the Texans will be targeting Harper all game with the Okie Doke huh?

My guess is their determining ways to prevent Harper from knocking Schaub out of the game.

That and the cutback run..and yeah ..look for Owen Daniel to get a lot of passes..One thing that will help is Foster is out..but then again Tate is just as dam lethal so far this year..

jeanpierre · 09-20-2011, 05:55 PM

Best way to protect Harper as a Pass Liability is to run nickel packages and let him blitz...

I believe it was already pointed out by Mike Triplett how big a liability he is in pass coverage but that that he does well with the blitz...

Who did the Bears have to cover of note?!?

Let the season progress, have a body of work, and then see where things lie...

Casillas showed excellent speed on his linebacker blitz...

Houston definitely has better receivers than Chicago, so we'll get another good test like Week 1...

Danno · 09-20-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Let the season progress, have a body of work, and then see where things lie......

You mean like last year when Harper rated one of the best DB's limiting TE's and got more gameballs than anyone else on the defense?

That would certainly be nice, but I don't see it happening.

lynwood · 09-20-2011, 07:24 PM

I always liked Harper since day one cause he brings the wood! Tough physical Safty.

homerj07 · 09-20-2011, 07:50 PM

There is not a SS alive who can stop every pass - All we can ask is that they don't give up the big play. Harper was able to do that last week lets hope he can do it again this week!

09-20-2011, 05:22 PM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Originally Posted by strato Same as not being worth it..lol....that was my biggest gripe about Harper..the money...if he keeps popping the QB and learns to cover better..i will change my mind on that to...How about Junyah he has as many sacks..and some people still want him cut????..I guess it all depends on the fan. Who wants JUNIOR cut? He's played damn good.

09-20-2011, 05:23 PM	#22
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by papz I think if Harper's list of primary concerns has Johnson and Daniels up high on it, then that would be bad game planning. Let's have our in the box blitzing strong safety focus on attacking their line of scrimmage and change Schaub's line of sight. Why put our players in a position to not maximize their abilities? I agree ..but the Texans have been watching film on that nightmare in Seattle ..and they will try and expose him..if he can just run with them and get help over the top..or at least wrap up after the catch..Ive been listening to some of the radio here...they are well aware of his lack of coverage skills..so G.W needs to make sure he has some help...The one that scares me the most and you really cant stop is A.J..he will get his...we just have to stop everyone else..

09-20-2011, 05:29 PM	#23
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Originally Posted by strato I agree ..but the Texans have been watching film on that nightmare in Seattle ..and they will try and expose him.... You mean the Seattle game where he made 2 mistakes the entire game? I'll bet their licking their chops looking at the Lynch run moreso than those two Harper plays, one of which was a fake lay dawn and act blocked trick play. The only reason they'll target Harper is because they won't target Greer, Porter or Jenkins. My guess is they attack our weakass LB's on the edge. Every team wants to target a SS matched up against a stud TE. Thats nothing new in this league. Harper holds his own for a SS. Brees would target a SS against Graham also, regardless of who that SS is.

09-20-2011, 05:31 PM	#24
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Danno You mean the Seattle game where he made 2 mistakes the entire game? I'll bet their licking their chops looking at the Lynch run moreso than those two Harper plays, one of which was a fake lay dawn and act blocked trick play. The only reason they'll target Harper is because they won't target Greer, Porter or Jenkins. My guess is they attack our weakass LB's on the edge. Every team wants to target a SS matched up against a stud TE. Thats nothing new in this league. Harper holds his own for a SS. Yeah that one.. where every Saints fan was cussing him for falling for the Okie Doke
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09-20-2011, 05:35 PM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Originally Posted by strato Yeah that one.. where every Saints fan was cussing him for falling for the Okie Doke So you think the Texans will be targeting Harper all game with the Okie Doke huh? My guess is their determining ways to prevent Harper from knocking Schaub out of the game. Crusader likes this.

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09-20-2011, 05:40 PM	#26
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Danno So you think the Texans will be targeting Harper all game with the Okie Doke huh? My guess is their determining ways to prevent Harper from knocking Schaub out of the game. That and the cutback run..and yeah ..look for Owen Daniel to get a lot of passes..One thing that will help is Foster is out..but then again Tate is just as dam lethal so far this year..

09-20-2011, 05:55 PM	#27
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Best way to protect Harper as a Pass Liability is to run nickel packages and let him blitz... I believe it was already pointed out by Mike Triplett how big a liability he is in pass coverage but that that he does well with the blitz... Who did the Bears have to cover of note?!? Let the season progress, have a body of work, and then see where things lie... Casillas showed excellent speed on his linebacker blitz... Houston definitely has better receivers than Chicago, so we'll get another good test like Week 1... strato likes this.

09-20-2011, 07:23 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Let the season progress, have a body of work, and then see where things lie...... You mean like last year when Harper rated one of the best DB's limiting TE's and got more gameballs than anyone else on the defense? That would certainly be nice, but I don't see it happening.

09-20-2011, 07:24 PM	#29
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	I always liked Harper since day one cause he brings the wood! Tough physical Safty. Danno likes this.

09-20-2011, 07:50 PM	#30
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	There is not a SS alive who can stop every pass - All we can ask is that they don't give up the big play. Harper was able to do that last week lets hope he can do it again this week! Danno likes this.