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09-23-2011, 12:02 AM | #1 |
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Houston Newspaper Breakdown of the Saints {pretty good breakdown}
The Saints – more physical than finesse. When you think of the Saints, you probably think of wide open football, but Sean Payton wants to run the ball and be physical about it. The Saints were known around the league as a finesse team, but that all changed back in 2009. The Saints have a couple of brutes at guard in Carl Nicks and Jhari Evans and they will cause major problems for the Texans up the middle. The Saints averaged almost 50 yards less per game on the ground last year than in their Super Bowl year and they are looking to get the ground game back on track this year.
Drew Brees is great, but he’s not Peyton or Brady. There is no denying that the Saints emergence as an NFC power has coincided with their signing of Drew Brees back in 2006. Brees has posted some phenomenal numbers and, more importantly, been the unquestioned leader of the Saints. I have tremendous respect for Brees, but I do think he’s more “beatable” than both Manning and Brady. While Brees doesn’t lack the confidence of either QB, I have seen defenses confuse and rattle Brees from time to time which is why he’s thrown 79 interceptions in 81 games as a Saint including seasons with 22, 18 and 17. Granted, Brees throws more passes than your average QB, I’m just saying that the Texans have a better chance of shaking him than you might think. The Saints receivers are an army of many. When Marques Colston went down, I don’t think too many people around the league thought the Saints were doomed considering the targets Brees still has at his disposal. Robert Meachem, Devery Henderson, Lance Moore, Darren Sproles and Jimmy Graham give Brees a plethora of targets to throw to, but more importantly, they give Sean Payton and Brees a ton of opportunities to isolate the defense’s weakest players in coverage and exploit them. Sproles in the slot is trouble. In their matchup with the Bears, one of the things that really stuck out to me was that when Sproles played in the slot, the Saints found ways to get him the ball. In space, Sproles is a very tough problem for defenses so the Texans had better have the tackling gloves on. Gregg Williams cranks up the blitzes, but is he a great defensive coordinator? I know Williams is one of the most visible coordinators in football and he’s certainly memorable since he is so blitz-happy, but blitzing doesn’t equal greatness. I think Williams is a good coordinator, but I also think his blitzing ways are a must with the Saints because it helps to cover up coverage issues and run defense issues they have. Against the Bears, Williams brought wave after wave of blitzes against Jay Cutler with great success. He used both safeties, two different corners and four different linebackers with his blitzes. However, with the way the Texans prefer to attack teams through play-action, I think we’ll see less blitzing from Williams and a greater focus on slowing down the running game. Roman Harper (#41) and Jonathan Casillas (#52) are both a strength and weakness of the team. Harper blitzed the Bears NINE TIMES from his strong safety position and lived near the line of scrimmage. While Harper is an effective blitzer, he’s only average in coverage and can be exploited. Pay close attention to how often he is lined up on or near the line of scrimmage. Casillas had an awful game against the Texans in the preseason, but he’s incredible quick and tough to block when he blitzes. Against the run, he’s a weak link, but when he’s in the game, Gregg Williams loves to use him to get after the QB. Read the rest Know Your Enemy – Insight into the Saints | The Z Report | a Chron.com blog |
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09-23-2011, 12:39 PM | #2 |
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I hope were careful with this gameplan...i dont think we blitz as much this game..it would be risky to leave the middle open like that against the Texans..they will run or burn us with the TE..
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09-23-2011, 01:04 PM | #3 |
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We need to maintain what works best for us which in turn helped us notch a top 5 defense last year. Blitz, blitz, and blitz some more. We did not blitz against Green Bay and that worked out great. Play to our strength... force them to adjust to us. We have a healthy Jenkins manning the middle... and I'll take my chances with our stud muffin. I'm not the least bit interested having our guys drop back and twiddling their thumbs.
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09-23-2011, 01:09 PM | #4 |
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I might just loose my mind if I see GW use Gibbs ole 10 yd coushin coverage again like they did in Green Bay
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09-23-2011, 01:27 PM | #5 |
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Excellent article, though his assessment that manning and brady perform better when pressured is suspect. Brady is not very good when hit more than 5 times a game. But that's besides the point.
Schaub has not been great against decent defenses historically. The Texans run well, but unless the opposing secondary are significantly below average, he struggles when the run is cut off. Last season, which is somewhat less meaningful, Schaub forced a lot of passes and while "accurate" overall, did not do well in 2010 against man-scheme defenses. The Texans' offense is built around play action/downfield pass routes. Teams like Baltimore/Jets/Giants/Oakland who had good man coverage and run blitzed kept the Texans more than contained. Since they didn't really stop an offense last year, and they haven't played one yet this season, it is tough to say that they are improved. I would worry that they have confidence, but I have a sneaking suspicion that that confidence could be easily broken, just like Cutler's. |
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Originally Posted by papz
The only difference is Houston O-line is light years better than Chicago's ..I dont think we blitz as much...but i hope we dont play 10 yards off...we have to be physical on the line with their receivers..they are big and fast..Ive watched them in both games and they get separation real quick...Also Schaub like that dam bootleg..so look out for that ..we stop the run and get pressure we win... They have the number one ranked D right now, but really haven't played anybody...Drew needs to take what they give him and establish the run..the 3-4 has been kryptonite for Drew and confuses him at times...so a good running game and play action will be key...then take some shots down the field with Devery and Meach....we win ..but i think its a close one...and could come down to Kasay's leg.. |
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Originally Posted by strato
I don't see why this makes a single difference whether or not we need to blitz. In fact, given that they are a better line offensively, in order to get to the quarterback, shouldn't we blitz more instead of waiting to get picked apart? Pressure pressure pressure.
Oh and they have Andre Johnson... and that's about it. "They" are non-existent. To counter their bootlegs, we should blitz our corners from the outside as we've done in years past... or Harper whenever we get the chance. We'll have at least 1 big collison back there. We're going to win baby... by a touchdown. |
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Originally Posted by papz
We could win by 2 TDs if we use our running game and play smart on D...i think G.W knows what to do..
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We should definitely watch their screen game... they're very good at it. Vilma and our DL need to do a good job sniffing these plays out. That doesn't change anything with me wanting us to continue what we did last game... and all year last season.
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Also Papz...they were talking on the radio today and saying look for draws to slow down the Saints pass rush...I will be there real close to the field ...so you can bet i will be hollering when the Texans have the ball..lol
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