What Jake has that Aaron doesnt?

TonyMax · 01-22-2004, 11:52 AM

1= A very dependable RUNNING GAME. Davis goes down Foster comes in and picks up the slack. Jake ony threw the ball 14 times in the NFC championship game.

2= DEFENSE!! Jake has a defense to rely on so he doesn't have to make plays all the time. I don't think that Jake is a better leader than Brooks. I think Brooks is a very good leader. Leadership starts from head coaching. If the Saints need a better leader then they may need a better coach.

3= COACHING!!!!

BillyC · 01-22-2004, 12:43 PM

All I know is I would rather face a Delhomme led Panthers team than an Aaron Brooks led Panthers team.

TonyMax · 01-22-2004, 01:18 PM

I\'d rather face a Delhomme led Panthers than an Aaron Brooks led Panthers. Aaron would be a dangerous quarterback if he had any kind of defense to fall back on or rely on like Jake.

BillyC · 01-22-2004, 01:27 PM

Does anyone really believe that Delhomme\'s leadership is responsible for the Panthers success? I don\'t. The Delhomme supporters like to talk about that because it\'s something that can\'t be proven or disproven. It\'d be like me saying Doug Williams was a better leader than Dan Fouts.

Delhomme is not even as good as Trent Dilfer, IMO. Leadership, leadership, leadership. Is that all they got? I\'ll tell ya right now that I don\'t like Delhomme at all. I\'m not scared to say it. It\'s nothing personal against Jake, it\'s because the Brooks\' bashers are in love with this guy, therefore I hate him.

[Edited on 22/1/2004 by BillyC]

saintfan · 01-22-2004, 01:35 PM

Jake came in an lit a fire under the Panthers in the second half of their first game. Even I won\'t deny that. Jake is servicable, but special or \"top 5\", as some seem to think a team requires, he is definately not.

Jake has a bad habit of underthrowing people and there are other parts of his game that defenses will have caught up to by next year. Personally, I don\'t give him 1 chance in hell of beating the Patriots \"D\" in Houston either.

Honestly, if you take away the Panthers luck they don\'t have much except for a pretty good front four on defense, and that includes the QB. If their defense wasn\'t able to keep games close they would have struggled to win 7 games this year, and that\'s a fact.

BillyC · 01-22-2004, 01:50 PM

2003 Carolina Panthers 16 15 449 266 59.2 3219 7.17 67 19 16 23/168 46 9 80.6

Jake threw 19-TD\'s and 16-Int\'s and had 15-fumbles and I\'m suppose to beleive that he LED them to a super bowl? He didn\'t lose 15-fumbles but he did fumble the ball 15-times. Now, he did indeed throw only 3 more TD\'s than Int\'s.

It makes me sick to hear the Brooks bashers stick up for a no talented QB like Delhomme and bash our QB like they do. Somewhere those folks have to lose credibility. I\'ve watched Brooks carry our offense on his shoulders at times. I\'ve wathced Brooks almost single handidly win games. I\'ve watched Brooks go through more hell than any QB in New Orleans history. I don\'t like and never have liked it. Then to hear a bunch of whining Brooks\' bashers praise Delhomme. It\'s sickening!!

saintz08 · 01-22-2004, 02:15 PM

I\'ve watched Brooks carry our offense on his shoulders at times. I\'ve wathced Brooks almost single handidly win games. I\'ve watched Brooks go through more hell than any QB in New Orleans history.

What is that tangible asset that Brooks brings to the game ???

I\'ve watched Brooks go through more hell than any QB in New Orleans history.

You must never have seen Archie play in New Orleans ...... Because if you had , you would know this is the most absurd statement ever made in the history of man kind .

BillyC · 01-22-2004, 02:17 PM

You must never have seen Archie play in New Orleans ...... Because if you had , you would know this is the most absurd statement ever made in the history of man kind .

I watched him play 08. He was loved back then too. Sure, he went though a little negetivity, but nothing like Brooks. Quit making things up!!

saintz08 · 01-22-2004, 02:33 PM

I watched him play 08. He was loved back then too. Sure, he went though a little negetivity, but nothing like Brooks. Quit making things up!!

I see so you are talking mental anguish here . Not the got no front line , defense uses the quarterback as a meeting point and quarterback needs help getting off the turf kind of hell .

You are talking the little boys down the street are talking bad about me momma kind of personal locked inside your mind hell .

Brooks is the sesitive type , so maybe he has problems with that ......

BillyC · 01-22-2004, 02:58 PM

I watched him play 08. He was loved back then too. Sure, he went though a little negetivity, but nothing like Brooks. Quit making things up!!

I see so you are talking mental anguish here . Not the got no front line , defense uses the quarterback as a meeting point and quarterback needs help getting off the turf kind of hell .

You are talking the little boys down the street are talking bad about me momma kind of personal locked inside your mind hell .

Brooks is the sesitive type , so maybe he has problems with that ......

Yeah, 08, that\'s exactly what I\'m talking about. The same kind Terry Bradshaw went through in Pittsburg. Which is the reason he never went back to Pittsburg until recently. He had very hard feelings towards the city of Pittsburg, because of some ignorant things said about him by some ignorant fans and the media. Pretty much the samethings you and other say about Brooks!!

01-22-2004, 11:52 AM	#1
TonyMax Rookie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 14	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? 1= A very dependable RUNNING GAME. Davis goes down Foster comes in and picks up the slack. Jake ony threw the ball 14 times in the NFC championship game. 2= DEFENSE!! Jake has a defense to rely on so he doesn't have to make plays all the time. I don't think that Jake is a better leader than Brooks. I think Brooks is a very good leader. Leadership starts from head coaching. If the Saints need a better leader then they may need a better coach. 3= COACHING!!!!
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01-22-2004, 12:43 PM	#2
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? All I know is I would rather face a Delhomme led Panthers team than an Aaron Brooks led Panthers team.
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01-22-2004, 01:18 PM	#3
TonyMax Rookie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 14	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? I\'d rather face a Delhomme led Panthers than an Aaron Brooks led Panthers. Aaron would be a dangerous quarterback if he had any kind of defense to fall back on or rely on like Jake.
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01-22-2004, 01:27 PM	#4
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? Does anyone really believe that Delhomme\'s leadership is responsible for the Panthers success? I don\'t. The Delhomme supporters like to talk about that because it\'s something that can\'t be proven or disproven. It\'d be like me saying Doug Williams was a better leader than Dan Fouts. Delhomme is not even as good as Trent Dilfer, IMO. Leadership, leadership, leadership. Is that all they got? I\'ll tell ya right now that I don\'t like Delhomme at all. I\'m not scared to say it. It\'s nothing personal against Jake, it\'s because the Brooks\' bashers are in love with this guy, therefore I hate him. [Edited on 22/1/2004 by BillyC]
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01-22-2004, 01:35 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? Jake came in an lit a fire under the Panthers in the second half of their first game. Even I won\'t deny that. Jake is servicable, but special or \"top 5\", as some seem to think a team requires, he is definately not. Jake has a bad habit of underthrowing people and there are other parts of his game that defenses will have caught up to by next year. Personally, I don\'t give him 1 chance in hell of beating the Patriots \"D\" in Houston either. Honestly, if you take away the Panthers luck they don\'t have much except for a pretty good front four on defense, and that includes the QB. If their defense wasn\'t able to keep games close they would have struggled to win 7 games this year, and that\'s a fact.
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01-22-2004, 01:50 PM	#6
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? 2003 Carolina Panthers 16 15 449 266 59.2 3219 7.17 67 19 16 23/168 46 9 80.6 Jake threw 19-TD\'s and 16-Int\'s and had 15-fumbles and I\'m suppose to beleive that he LED them to a super bowl? He didn\'t lose 15-fumbles but he did fumble the ball 15-times. Now, he did indeed throw only 3 more TD\'s than Int\'s. It makes me sick to hear the Brooks bashers stick up for a no talented QB like Delhomme and bash our QB like they do. Somewhere those folks have to lose credibility. I\'ve watched Brooks carry our offense on his shoulders at times. I\'ve wathced Brooks almost single handidly win games. I\'ve watched Brooks go through more hell than any QB in New Orleans history. I don\'t like and never have liked it. Then to hear a bunch of whining Brooks\' bashers praise Delhomme. It\'s sickening!!
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01-22-2004, 02:15 PM	#7
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? I\'ve watched Brooks carry our offense on his shoulders at times. I\'ve wathced Brooks almost single handidly win games. I\'ve watched Brooks go through more hell than any QB in New Orleans history. What is that tangible asset that Brooks brings to the game ??? I\'ve watched Brooks go through more hell than any QB in New Orleans history. You must never have seen Archie play in New Orleans ...... Because if you had , you would know this is the most absurd statement ever made in the history of man kind .
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01-22-2004, 02:17 PM	#8
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? You must never have seen Archie play in New Orleans ...... Because if you had , you would know this is the most absurd statement ever made in the history of man kind . I watched him play 08. He was loved back then too. Sure, he went though a little negetivity, but nothing like Brooks. Quit making things up!!
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01-22-2004, 02:33 PM	#9
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? I watched him play 08. He was loved back then too. Sure, he went though a little negetivity, but nothing like Brooks. Quit making things up!! I see so you are talking mental anguish here . Not the got no front line , defense uses the quarterback as a meeting point and quarterback needs help getting off the turf kind of hell . You are talking the little boys down the street are talking bad about me momma kind of personal locked inside your mind hell . Brooks is the sesitive type , so maybe he has problems with that ......
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01-22-2004, 02:58 PM	#10
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What Jake has that Aaron doesnt? I watched him play 08. He was loved back then too. Sure, he went though a little negetivity, but nothing like Brooks. Quit making things up!! I see so you are talking mental anguish here . Not the got no front line , defense uses the quarterback as a meeting point and quarterback needs help getting off the turf kind of hell . You are talking the little boys down the street are talking bad about me momma kind of personal locked inside your mind hell . Brooks is the sesitive type , so maybe he has problems with that ...... Yeah, 08, that\'s exactly what I\'m talking about. The same kind Terry Bradshaw went through in Pittsburg. Which is the reason he never went back to Pittsburg until recently. He had very hard feelings towards the city of Pittsburg, because of some ignorant things said about him by some ignorant fans and the media. Pretty much the samethings you and other say about Brooks!!
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