Horrible officiating

saintfan · 10-09-2011, 06:57 PM

The reason it gets worse is because they keep trying to take the violence out of a violent game. That first roughing penalty is exhibit "A". The second one, the helmet to helmet...ticky tack, okay, whatever. But that first one...that was a joke.

Euphoria · 10-09-2011, 07:06 PM

Actually just to clarify the penalty of rushing the passer on Cam was actually the right freakin call I hate to say it.

I was damn sure the ball was in his hand when they hit him.

The problem on the play is that we hit him high by one player and another player cam in low. That is a roughing the passer penalty.

The same thing was called on us against the Vikes in the NFC championship game if I recall. They didn't do a good job explaining the call vs the Panters.

saintfan · 10-09-2011, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Actually just to clarify the penalty of rushing the passer on Cam was actually the right freakin call I hate to say it.

I was damn sure the ball was in his hand when they hit him.

The problem on the play is that we hit him high by one player and another player cam in low. That is a roughing the passer penalty.

The same thing was called on us against the Vikes in the NFC championship game if I recall. They didn't do a good job explaining the call vs the Panters.

There's no way for men that size (or any size) to stop. It isn't possible. The only way to avoid something like that is to just not try to go after him. It's a joke.

Euphoria · 10-09-2011, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

There's no way for men that size (or any size) to stop. It isn't possible. The only way to avoid something like that is to just not try to go after him. It's a joke.

The penalty had nothing to do with a late hit on the QB. In fact it was a hit happening at the time of release.

This is where the rule gets crazy. 2 players can't hit the QB, one high and one low. Now how are you suppose to communicate and know what the other player is going to make his hit???

It's one of those penalties that you have to accept when it happens.

mighty12 · 10-09-2011, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

The penalty had nothing to do with a late hit on the QB. In fact it was a hit happening at the time of release.

This is where the rule gets crazy. 2 players can't hit the QB, one high and one low. Now how are you suppose to communicate and know what the other player is going to make his hit???

It's one of those penalties that you have to accept when it happens.

The roughing the passer rule does not state that a passer can not be hit by two players simmultanously, only that a person cannot lunge at or below a passers knees while on the ground. The call was on Turk McBride who hit Cam in the chest, thus the ruling on the field is wrong. The other hit was actually at his thigh which is a clean play.

alleycat_126 · 10-10-2011, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Actually just to clarify the penalty of rushing the passer on Cam was actually the right freakin call I hate to say it.

I was damn sure the ball was in his hand when they hit him.

The problem on the play is that we hit him high by one player and another player cam in low. That is a roughing the passer penalty.

The same thing was called on us against the Vikes in the NFC championship game if I recall. They didn't do a good job explaining the call vs the Panters.

I have to disagree, the high low in the Championship game was illegal, but it is what gave way to the birth of dumass calls like this first roughing the passer call on Saints D. When they showed the shot back you can see all the Saints Defenders around cam are actually tackling not spearing another thing to look out for is the helmet. And that was under the shoulder pads of cam. That first drive for Carolina shouldn't have happened

AlaskaSaints · 10-09-2011, 07:14 PM

If I'm ahead by 30 the officiating won't matter! LOL

Agreed. Very frustrating today.

I don't like that we're becoming a cheap-shot and taunting team. That can only mean that we have insecurities.

Alaska

ScottF · 10-09-2011, 07:31 PM

The Smith thing was ridiculous, and why wasn't the PF on the field goal stiil enforced? It was a dead ball foul during a dead ball situation.
So, if there's a whistle for a false start and then someone drills the quarterback it is not a PF?

FireVenturi · 10-09-2011, 08:44 PM

Terrible, all the way around. At times it felt like they were trying to help the Panties keep it close... oh well. Good teams can overcome the fix and that's what we did.

SaintPauly · 10-09-2011, 09:21 PM

Like I said earlier.... I have hated Steve Smith since he first came into the league... He's a punk, and an instigator... Glad he got nailed... Just wish Jenkins would have put up a better fight!

10-09-2011, 08:50 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Euphoria Actually just to clarify the penalty of rushing the passer on Cam was actually the right freakin call I hate to say it. I was damn sure the ball was in his hand when they hit him. The problem on the play is that we hit him high by one player and another player cam in low. That is a roughing the passer penalty. The same thing was called on us against the Vikes in the NFC championship game if I recall. They didn't do a good job explaining the call vs the Panters. There's no way for men that size (or any size) to stop. It isn't possible. The only way to avoid something like that is to just not try to go after him. It's a joke.

10-09-2011, 09:50 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by saintfan There's no way for men that size (or any size) to stop. It isn't possible. The only way to avoid something like that is to just not try to go after him. It's a joke. The penalty had nothing to do with a late hit on the QB. In fact it was a hit happening at the time of release. This is where the rule gets crazy. 2 players can't hit the QB, one high and one low. Now how are you suppose to communicate and know what the other player is going to make his hit??? It's one of those penalties that you have to accept when it happens.

10-09-2011, 09:59 PM	#5
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Euphoria The penalty had nothing to do with a late hit on the QB. In fact it was a hit happening at the time of release. This is where the rule gets crazy. 2 players can't hit the QB, one high and one low. Now how are you suppose to communicate and know what the other player is going to make his hit??? It's one of those penalties that you have to accept when it happens. The roughing the passer rule does not state that a passer can not be hit by two players simmultanously, only that a person cannot lunge at or below a passers knees while on the ground. The call was on Turk McBride who hit Cam in the chest, thus the ruling on the field is wrong. The other hit was actually at his thigh which is a clean play.

10-10-2011, 02:34 AM	#6
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Euphoria Actually just to clarify the penalty of rushing the passer on Cam was actually the right freakin call I hate to say it. I was damn sure the ball was in his hand when they hit him. The problem on the play is that we hit him high by one player and another player cam in low. That is a roughing the passer penalty. The same thing was called on us against the Vikes in the NFC championship game if I recall. They didn't do a good job explaining the call vs the Panters. I have to disagree, the high low in the Championship game was illegal, but it is what gave way to the birth of dumass calls like this first roughing the passer call on Saints D. When they showed the shot back you can see all the Saints Defenders around cam are actually tackling not spearing another thing to look out for is the helmet. And that was under the shoulder pads of cam. That first drive for Carolina shouldn't have happened

10-09-2011, 09:21 PM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Like I said earlier.... I have hated Steve Smith since he first came into the league... He's a punk, and an instigator... Glad he got nailed... Just wish Jenkins would have put up a better fight! 73Saint and JoanieNTX like this.

10-09-2011, 06:57 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The reason it gets worse is because they keep trying to take the violence out of a violent game. That first roughing penalty is exhibit "A". The second one, the helmet to helmet...ticky tack, okay, whatever. But that first one...that was a joke.

10-09-2011, 07:06 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Actually just to clarify the penalty of rushing the passer on Cam was actually the right freakin call I hate to say it. I was damn sure the ball was in his hand when they hit him. The problem on the play is that we hit him high by one player and another player cam in low. That is a roughing the passer penalty. The same thing was called on us against the Vikes in the NFC championship game if I recall. They didn't do a good job explaining the call vs the Panters.

10-09-2011, 07:14 PM	#7
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	If I'm ahead by 30 the officiating won't matter! LOL Agreed. Very frustrating today. I don't like that we're becoming a cheap-shot and taunting team. That can only mean that we have insecurities. Alaska

10-09-2011, 07:31 PM	#8
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	The Smith thing was ridiculous, and why wasn't the PF on the field goal stiil enforced? It was a dead ball foul during a dead ball situation. So, if there's a whistle for a false start and then someone drills the quarterback it is not a PF?

10-09-2011, 08:44 PM	#9
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Terrible, all the way around. At times it felt like they were trying to help the Panties keep it close... oh well. Good teams can overcome the fix and that's what we did.

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