What just happend

claus808 · 10-17-2011, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by FireVenturi

Hard to win 3 straight games on the road. Only like 8 percent of teams have ever done that in NFL history.

Sorry but who gives a **** about percentages and numbers. No damn reason for us to have lost today, Drew Brees was garbage with those 3 INTS. I don't think I have read from anyone that Brees was a problem today, when he was the one to produce 3 out of the 4 turnovers!

SaintPauly · 10-17-2011, 03:57 AM

I have said this before, and i will say it again. Drew needs to run the ball more. There have been times this year, where he had an easy 3 yard run, to get a critical third down, and instead, he passes into double coverage. Heck, in every commercial I see him in, he's jogging or running, so I know he knows how! If there's no where to go with the ball, get the freaking yards!

pherein · 10-17-2011, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Easy? I disagree. The next two - the Rams and Indy - those "should" be easy, but the Bucs don't suck. They laid an egg last week, but Freeman, IMO, is the best QB in the NFC South not named Drew. Their defense is young and on the rise.

Our offense laid a rare egg today, and our defense isn't good enough to recover from 4 turnovers. It isn't the end of the world. Nothing happened today that I haven't been expecting, and I'm honestly relieved a little that it was Tampa and not some crap team like the Rams.

The Bucs are ok, Im not freaking out over the loss, Im just see a serious problem now. Every team in the NFL has problems, I just saw ours today.
I saw today what we did in with the Seahawks.
A complete break down on defense, and a offense struggling to make up for it.
I think its amazing we had 4 turnovers and only lost by 6, but there is a problem. Not sure what it is yet, but if we play like this in the NFC championship we are going to lose.

Budsdrinker · 10-17-2011, 08:18 AM

We still play too far off the line of scrimmage with our DB's. You can't give a 7-10 yard cushion, are our guys just that slow? We need to be jamming the receivers at the line to throw off QB's timing and then maybe we can get some sacks. This is for the guys that replay the game since I didn't record it yesterday, how did Kreutz play compared to DLP the last 3 weeks? Was he the difference in the run game? I know Kreutz had a false start penalty that cost us a big play. Now how in the hell does a center have a false start?

OldMaid · 10-17-2011, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Can't throw 3 int's in ANY NFL football game and expect to beat ANY team... sorry, it's pretty simple.

No.

I agree with Halo. Big turnovers like this are costly. If the Bucs team had given the Saints the 3 int's., you know the Saints would have used those gifts.

I also agree with darstep about the 4th quarter comeback. Yes, it can be fun, entertaining , and great, exciting, when the Saints win, but as the saying goes, you have to play 4 qrtrs. of ball.
The SS game, yeah, Saints could ahve won it, I believe, if you had more time. This one too. Reverse is the same for the games that the Saints have won, and ran the clock out, with the other team losing. 0:00 game over.

Cruize · 10-17-2011, 09:19 AM

Positives
-The Saints are 4-2 with half the scheduled road games played.
-Robinson is looking good a against the pass and run.
-Ingram looked good in short yardage and got a TD.
-Graham is a great young TE. And tough.
-Colston looks like he's back in top form.
-Kasay made the kicks he should.
-The next two games are against winless teams.

Negatives
-Payton getting injured. Playcalling and clock management suffered.
-No pass rush blitzing or not.
-Defense gave up too many big plays again.
-Tackling is horrible. Ducking your head and throwing a shoulder is the opposite of how you tackle.
-The o-line looked worse with Kreutz playing.
-The run blocking is just bad.
-The defense has no playmakers.
-Jenkins is inconsistent at best.
-Harper is consistent. Mostly bad.
-When Drew has an off day, the Saints lose.
-NFL officiating is horrible.
-Drew is hanging Graham out to dry alot and he's taking some shots.
-The Saints next two games are against winless teams. The same 'ol Saints would lose atleast one of those games.

Kryptonite · 10-17-2011, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by claus808

Sorry but who gives a **** about percentages and numbers. No damn reason for us to have lost today, Drew Brees was garbage with those 3 INTS. I don't think I have read from anyone that Brees was a problem today, when he was the one to produce 3 out of the 4 turnovers!

The only reason you havent heard anyone say that about Drew is because I just got over the hurt and only now have pulled myself together to talk about this crap. HA!

WTF!!! Now, I in no way think Tampa is a bad team but I do believe that there is no way we should lose a game to them. 3 ints? Come on Drew!!! Who in the hell did he see in the end-zone? I know he was under "some" pressure, but not enough to have to throw that pass.

UGLY! Season's still young, but there is no way we are going to beat a Green Bay or 49er team playing like this.

I'm not saying we had to go 13-0, but impressive we are not.

strato · 10-17-2011, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by claus808

Sorry but who gives a **** about percentages and numbers. No damn reason for us to have lost today, Drew Brees was garbage with those 3 INTS. I don't think I have read from anyone that Brees was a problem today, when he was the one to produce 3 out of the 4 turnovers!

Well i guess you aint been reading..the rational fans know this..

Kryptonite · 10-17-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

I'm excited about getting Ivory back, too. I don't think Ivory can make the o-line run block worth a darn. Besides that, we don't make much of an effort to run unless we're up 20 in the fourth. Until Nicks, Evans, and Kreutz get it together it doesn't matter.

Exactly, I've been saying that for sometime now. Hell, it doesn't matter if we had AP back there running the ball is our "when all else fails" option.

Mardigras9 · 10-17-2011, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I have said this before, and i will say it again. Drew needs to run the ball more. There have been times this year, where he had an easy 3 yard run, to get a critical third down, and instead, he passes into double coverage. Heck, in every commercial I see him in, he's jogging or running, so I know he knows how! If there's no where to go with the ball, get the freaking yards!

If he's going to start this he better learn how to slide.

10-17-2011, 02:29 AM	#41
claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Originally Posted by FireVenturi Hard to win 3 straight games on the road. Only like 8 percent of teams have ever done that in NFL history. Sorry but who gives a **** about percentages and numbers. No damn reason for us to have lost today, Drew Brees was garbage with those 3 INTS. I don't think I have read from anyone that Brees was a problem today, when he was the one to produce 3 out of the 4 turnovers!

10-17-2011, 03:57 AM	#42
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I have said this before, and i will say it again. Drew needs to run the ball more. There have been times this year, where he had an easy 3 yard run, to get a critical third down, and instead, he passes into double coverage. Heck, in every commercial I see him in, he's jogging or running, so I know he knows how! If there's no where to go with the ball, get the freaking yards! xan and leilung like this.

10-17-2011, 07:10 AM	#43
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by saintfan Easy? I disagree. The next two - the Rams and Indy - those "should" be easy, but the Bucs don't suck. They laid an egg last week, but Freeman, IMO, is the best QB in the NFC South not named Drew. Their defense is young and on the rise. Our offense laid a rare egg today, and our defense isn't good enough to recover from 4 turnovers. It isn't the end of the world. Nothing happened today that I haven't been expecting, and I'm honestly relieved a little that it was Tampa and not some crap team like the Rams. The Bucs are ok, Im not freaking out over the loss, Im just see a serious problem now. Every team in the NFL has problems, I just saw ours today. I saw today what we did in with the Seahawks. A complete break down on defense, and a offense struggling to make up for it. I think its amazing we had 4 turnovers and only lost by 6, but there is a problem. Not sure what it is yet, but if we play like this in the NFC championship we are going to lose.

10-17-2011, 09:16 AM	#45
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Halo Can't throw 3 int's in ANY NFL football game and expect to beat ANY team... sorry, it's pretty simple. No. I agree with Halo. Big turnovers like this are costly. If the Bucs team had given the Saints the 3 int's., you know the Saints would have used those gifts. I also agree with darstep about the 4th quarter comeback. Yes, it can be fun, entertaining , and great, exciting, when the Saints win, but as the saying goes, you have to play 4 qrtrs. of ball. The SS game, yeah, Saints could ahve won it, I believe, if you had more time. This one too. Reverse is the same for the games that the Saints have won, and ran the clock out, with the other team losing. 0:00 game over. strato likes this.

10-17-2011, 09:19 AM	#46
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Positives -The Saints are 4-2 with half the scheduled road games played. -Robinson is looking good a against the pass and run. -Ingram looked good in short yardage and got a TD. -Graham is a great young TE. And tough. -Colston looks like he's back in top form. -Kasay made the kicks he should. -The next two games are against winless teams. Negatives -Payton getting injured. Playcalling and clock management suffered. -No pass rush blitzing or not. -Defense gave up too many big plays again. -Tackling is horrible. Ducking your head and throwing a shoulder is the opposite of how you tackle. -The o-line looked worse with Kreutz playing. -The run blocking is just bad. -The defense has no playmakers. -Jenkins is inconsistent at best. -Harper is consistent. Mostly bad. -When Drew has an off day, the Saints lose. -NFL officiating is horrible. -Drew is hanging Graham out to dry alot and he's taking some shots. -The Saints next two games are against winless teams. The same 'ol Saints would lose atleast one of those games.
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10-17-2011, 08:18 AM	#44
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	We still play too far off the line of scrimmage with our DB's. You can't give a 7-10 yard cushion, are our guys just that slow? We need to be jamming the receivers at the line to throw off QB's timing and then maybe we can get some sacks. This is for the guys that replay the game since I didn't record it yesterday, how did Kreutz play compared to DLP the last 3 weeks? Was he the difference in the run game? I know Kreutz had a false start penalty that cost us a big play. Now how in the hell does a center have a false start?

10-17-2011, 09:36 AM	#47
Kryptonite DAMMIT BOY! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Crestview, FL via S'port LA Posts: 197	Originally Posted by claus808 Sorry but who gives a **** about percentages and numbers. No damn reason for us to have lost today, Drew Brees was garbage with those 3 INTS. I don't think I have read from anyone that Brees was a problem today, when he was the one to produce 3 out of the 4 turnovers! The only reason you havent heard anyone say that about Drew is because I just got over the hurt and only now have pulled myself together to talk about this crap. HA! WTF!!! Now, I in no way think Tampa is a bad team but I do believe that there is no way we should lose a game to them. 3 ints? Come on Drew!!! Who in the hell did he see in the end-zone? I know he was under "some" pressure, but not enough to have to throw that pass. UGLY! Season's still young, but there is no way we are going to beat a Green Bay or 49er team playing like this. I'm not saying we had to go 13-0, but impressive we are not.

10-17-2011, 09:38 AM	#48
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by claus808 Sorry but who gives a **** about percentages and numbers. No damn reason for us to have lost today, Drew Brees was garbage with those 3 INTS. I don't think I have read from anyone that Brees was a problem today, when he was the one to produce 3 out of the 4 turnovers! Well i guess you aint been reading..the rational fans know this..

10-17-2011, 09:54 AM	#49
Kryptonite DAMMIT BOY! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Crestview, FL via S'port LA Posts: 197	Originally Posted by jcp026 I'm excited about getting Ivory back, too. I don't think Ivory can make the o-line run block worth a darn. Besides that, we don't make much of an effort to run unless we're up 20 in the fourth. Until Nicks, Evans, and Kreutz get it together it doesn't matter. Exactly, I've been saying that for sometime now. Hell, it doesn't matter if we had AP back there running the ball is our "when all else fails" option.

10-17-2011, 10:25 AM	#50
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I have said this before, and i will say it again. Drew needs to run the ball more. There have been times this year, where he had an easy 3 yard run, to get a critical third down, and instead, he passes into double coverage. Heck, in every commercial I see him in, he's jogging or running, so I know he knows how! If there's no where to go with the ball, get the freaking yards! If he's going to start this he better learn how to slide.

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