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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 340563)

I MEAN SOME OF YOU GUYS. YEA I SAID IT.

Folks... when has the Saints defense ever been dominant?

I'm sure Brees would be the first to say that the game was on him. Brees missed a wide open Robert Meachum in the endzone and threw his 3rd INT. Send his packing with Greg Williams? :rolleyes: That will solve a lot. :???:

I don't blame the defense. I don't blame the OL. I don't blame no running game. Give Tampa some credit. They deserve it. They beat us. Oh well... it's not the end of the world. I think almost all of the games are going to come down to this. Get used to it and face it, we are not the favorite to win the home field advantage anymore. We need help.

Payton not being on the sideline was huge! We were controlling the game until that. He was in so much pain and drugged by 1/2 time as not to be effective.

It was just one game. Who knows, maybe this is exactly what we needed. Did any of you cry babies think we were going to win them all? I'm sure Euphoria did. :D I scream BS.

At this point the sky isn't falling and you have to dance with who brought ya. No use in pointing fingers. The only thing you can do is regroup and get ready for Indy. Knowing how to handle a loss like this is what being a team is all about... as Tampa showed.

FF

This is actually child's play when it comes to whining. We've seen much worse around here. But, I get your points. Deal with it folks, we weren't finishing the season 15-1. The losses were coming from somewhere and this so happens to be one of them. A 10 or 11 win playoff will still be there... and that's when the real games begin.

Agreed. We dont need homefield. Our history has shown that we do great, in below 20 degree temperatures, in january...... :)

Thanks for the reality check FF.

Here is the problem as I see it.

We as Saints fans have been so used to losing, that now, because we have been winning we expect it. Hell, I'd go as far to say we DEMAND it.

In a sick way, the Saints winning the SuperBowl was the worst thing that happened to us as Saints fans. Is it wrong to want the best for our beloved team? By no means. However, our fanhood has turned from insanity into fanatical. Our team will be fine. We can't win the SB every year. What's the point in following a team if they win the big one every year?

Look at how the general public outside of Boston hated the Patriots. I don't want our team to become hated. Plus, losing keeps the bandwagoners to a minimum. :-P

We lost, and even during our best season's Buc's have managed to beat us.. we almost always split with them.. not that big of a deal, it's not like any of their fan's actually saw the game.

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Originally Posted by SaintsRule11 (Post 340616)

These are all very good points, but I don't think someone who criticizes our defense is automatically a "crybaby."

Yea but it was getting a little out of hand.

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 340632)

I think people forgot how to lose. :bng:

The biggest reason we lost the game yesterday, imo, was the running game. It isn't even the amount of yards we get per game, or the average yards per run of the running backs. I've been noticing a trend for the last few weeks. We try to run the ball on an early down, we get nothing at all. We throw a short pass on the other early down and get like 3 or 4 and then we are set up with a medium sized 3rd down that we sometimes fail to pick up. If we could get some level of consistency on early downs we win that game easy. Our normally potent offense, is shooting itself in the foot. One of the main reasons we've still been putting up pretty good offensive numbers is Brees being amazing on 3rd downs.

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 340563)

... when has the Saints defense ever been dominant?

1987. 1992.

I remember that defence like it was yesterday, LB's that lived to break you in two..& did .those were also SB caliber teams that just failed to do it when it counted. home field & a bye did not help one of those teams eaither. Nice to have but far from guarantee to move on even with that better then we have now D. I have faith DB & clan will correct our redzone play then the SB will be within reach.

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 340563)

I MEAN SOME OF YOU GUYS. YEA I SAID IT.

I'm sure Brees would be the first to say that the game was on him. Brees missed a wide open Robert Meachum in the endzone and threw his 3rd INT. Send his packing with Greg Williams? :rolleyes: That will solve a lot. :???:

I don't blame the defense. I don't blame the OL. I don't blame no running game. Give Tampa some credit. They deserve it. They beat us. Oh well... it's not the end of the world. I think almost all of the games are going to come down to this. Get used to it and face it, we are not the favorite to win the home field advantage anymore. We need help.

Payton not being on the sideline was huge! We were controlling the game until that. He was in so much pain and drugged by 1/2 time as not to be effective.

At this point the sky isn't falling and you have to dance with who brought ya. No use in pointing fingers. The only thing you can do is regroup and get ready for Indy. Knowing how to handle a loss like this is what being a team is all about... as Tampa showed.

FF

Hear hear...for those who didn't notice on Sunday, OUR COACH GOT CARRIED OFF ON A CART -- and Tampa exploited that.

We had dominate Defense under Jim Mora didn't we???

We have had good to really good D's before duh.