I honestly don't blame this one on the D

winmill1 · 10-31-2011, 10:40 AM

It was a hard environment to go in and win. They were coming off and embarrassing day and we were coming off embarrassing someone. That place was rocking with the World Series parades and crap. The Perfect Storm.

JoanieNTX · 10-31-2011, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Luda34

I was so mad yesterday that drunk myself in to a drunken sleep. I don't even want talk about them today. Chris Long look like a pro bowler last night and he's sorry ass hell.

I think Long and Jackson are on steroids....got tired of losing. JMO.

Beastmode · 10-31-2011, 11:22 AM

I don't blame the D either, they stopped them on some critical drives. Rams also gambled on 4th downs. My only knock is watching time after time the ball going through their hands, not a tip but clearly in their grasp and can't snag it. We need those turnovers. I hope GW puts emphasis on this fact. Jackson again played like a monster but they slowed him enough to win. About 40 of his yards were given. He had two long runs that resulted in punts.

CharityMike · 10-31-2011, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

So wait you don't think the D is important? They have to win games for us just as well as our Offense wins games for us. One has to help the other.

You just stated what we are all trying to say. One has to help the other. THIS game, the Offense did not help the D. Of course the D is important. I never said it was not. Instead of opening your eyes and seeing what the rest of us are, you keep saying D is why we lost.

It was our D that put the first points on the board. Get with the times man. This isn't the age of Defense wins championships anymore. Its offense wins championships and defense has to be just good enough to not lose games. Blame all these stupid new rules. It is what it is.

GeauxForMore · 10-31-2011, 11:39 AM

Yea the O had a bad game, but let be real how many bad games have the D had this year. Brees and company always step up every game and unfortunately they had a bad game like all great offenses have. When our D doesn't show up and our offense does we have a chance to win. When the O has a bad game and the D steps up we lose. Having a good O is a luxury good D is a necessity. But I do agree with everyone else coaching does need to be blamed.

strato · 10-31-2011, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Yea the O had a bad game, but let be real how many bad games have the D had this year. Brees and company always step up every game and unfortunately they had a bad game like all great offenses have. When our D doesn't show up and our offense does we have a chance to win. When the O has a bad game and the D steps up we lose. Having a good O is a luxury good D is a necessity. But I do agree with everyone else coaching does need to be blamed.

And we blame the D every week....not this week..

darstep · 10-31-2011, 11:46 AM

Can not agree!
We should hold everybody to 20 or less, especially these chumps.
Steven Jackson's first +100 yard day since 07'.
What was so different about our tackling than the previous 50 games where he failed to break 100?
Backup QB, injuries and breakdowns that have resulted in zero wins until they meet us.
Defense has as much a part of this loss as the poor offensive showing.
If we hold them to their average, 9 points a week, we still win.
If we give them an extra touchdown just for shegrins, 16 pts, we still win.
This was a team PPP(piss poor performance), and the defense was a big part of that.

Haps Biggest Fan · 10-31-2011, 11:49 AM

The Saints are in trouble. The weaknesses are exposed.

strato · 10-31-2011, 11:50 AM

We would have Darstep..a pick six...a blocked punt...getting sacked and having to punt...and most important...no running game..how can a D hold up like that?

Supertek · 10-31-2011, 01:14 PM

How can the defense not shoulder some of the blame they scored 31 points on us. This from a team that should not have scored more thant two touchdowns at best.

10-31-2011, 10:40 AM	#11
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	It was a hard environment to go in and win. They were coming off and embarrassing day and we were coming off embarrassing someone. That place was rocking with the World Series parades and crap. The Perfect Storm. darstep likes this.
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10-31-2011, 10:51 AM	#12
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Originally Posted by Luda34 I was so mad yesterday that drunk myself in to a drunken sleep. I don't even want talk about them today. Chris Long look like a pro bowler last night and he's sorry ass hell. I think Long and Jackson are on steroids....got tired of losing. JMO.

10-31-2011, 11:22 AM	#13
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	I don't blame the D either, they stopped them on some critical drives. Rams also gambled on 4th downs. My only knock is watching time after time the ball going through their hands, not a tip but clearly in their grasp and can't snag it. We need those turnovers. I hope GW puts emphasis on this fact. Jackson again played like a monster but they slowed him enough to win. About 40 of his yards were given. He had two long runs that resulted in punts.
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10-31-2011, 11:35 AM	#14
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by Euphoria So wait you don't think the D is important? They have to win games for us just as well as our Offense wins games for us. One has to help the other. You just stated what we are all trying to say. One has to help the other. THIS game, the Offense did not help the D. Of course the D is important. I never said it was not. Instead of opening your eyes and seeing what the rest of us are, you keep saying D is why we lost. It was our D that put the first points on the board. Get with the times man. This isn't the age of Defense wins championships anymore. Its offense wins championships and defense has to be just good enough to not lose games. Blame all these stupid new rules. It is what it is.

10-31-2011, 11:41 AM	#16
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Yea the O had a bad game, but let be real how many bad games have the D had this year. Brees and company always step up every game and unfortunately they had a bad game like all great offenses have. When our D doesn't show up and our offense does we have a chance to win. When the O has a bad game and the D steps up we lose. Having a good O is a luxury good D is a necessity. But I do agree with everyone else coaching does need to be blamed. And we blame the D every week....not this week..

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10-31-2011, 11:39 AM	#15
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 589	Yea the O had a bad game, but let be real how many bad games have the D had this year. Brees and company always step up every game and unfortunately they had a bad game like all great offenses have. When our D doesn't show up and our offense does we have a chance to win. When the O has a bad game and the D steps up we lose. Having a good O is a luxury good D is a necessity. But I do agree with everyone else coaching does need to be blamed.

10-31-2011, 11:46 AM	#17
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Can not agree! We should hold everybody to 20 or less, especially these chumps. Steven Jackson's first +100 yard day since 07'. What was so different about our tackling than the previous 50 games where he failed to break 100? Backup QB, injuries and breakdowns that have resulted in zero wins until they meet us. Defense has as much a part of this loss as the poor offensive showing. If we hold them to their average, 9 points a week, we still win. If we give them an extra touchdown just for shegrins, 16 pts, we still win. This was a team PPP(piss poor performance), and the defense was a big part of that.
	SaintSince67

10-31-2011, 11:49 AM	#18
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	The Saints are in trouble. The weaknesses are exposed.

10-31-2011, 11:50 AM	#19
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	We would have Darstep..a pick six...a blocked punt...getting sacked and having to punt...and most important...no running game..how can a D hold up like that?

10-31-2011, 01:14 PM	#20
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	How can the defense not shoulder some of the blame they scored 31 points on us. This from a team that should not have scored more thant two touchdowns at best. darstep likes this.