Saints hoping to improve on 23rd-ranked run defense

papz · 11-03-2011, 04:57 PM

METAIRIE, La. – When the Saints signed defensive tackle Shaun Rogers prior to the NFL lockout, there were question marks as to whether he would A) fit in with the locker room and B) have the drive to succeed.

The move to get Aubrayo Franklin was met with different sentiment. He was rated one of the best interior defensive linemen on the free agent market.

Eight games into the season neither have stood out on the field and both have said little off of it.

They have a combined 34 tackles with no sacks, no forced fumbles and no fumble recoveries.

Full article.
Saints hoping to improve on 23rd-ranked run defense | wwltv.com New Orleans

halloween 65 · 11-03-2011, 05:22 PM

What I can't see is our SS and FS being the ones with the most tackles on the team, this is one of those " COME ON MAN" moments. We need the boys to show up each and every game. Earn your money boys or next year someone hungry might.

Danno · 11-03-2011, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

What I can't see is our SS and FS being the ones with the most tackles on the team, this is one of those " COME ON MAN" moments. We need the boys to show up each and every game. Earn your money boys or next year someone hungry might.

Not unexpected because Harper and Jenkins play nearly every snap. Our front four rotates 8 guys in and out so logically no one will rack up a lot of tackles.

Now our LB's? Don't get me started.

dizzle88 · 11-03-2011, 06:03 PM

Vilma is normally miles ahead in the tackle department, does anyone else think that this injury keeping him out of practice is affecting him during games, I just don't see his normal exploding towards the ball carrier as I used to.

As for rogers and franklin, we were teased by the idea of two monsters stopping the run up the middle and even generating a steady pass rush, neither have come true.
The turnovers aren't there and neither is the run defense, that's why they struggle, in 2009 our run D was average at best but the turnovers made up for it ( Darren sharper)

AllSaints · 11-03-2011, 06:07 PM

YEAHHHH SO MUCH FOR THAT BAD A D-LINE sspppphhhhhhsshhhhh

vpheughan · 11-03-2011, 06:28 PM

How many tight ends do you think we'll draft this year? Better use every choice on defense. We are starting to look like the old Cardinals and Chargers. Great offense zero defense.

BIGEASY504 · 11-03-2011, 06:37 PM

I agree with DANNO with all the rotation but them LB's and Shanle in particular UGGHH!

SaintPauly · 11-03-2011, 11:20 PM

We have to address linebacker in the draft, or in FA, after the season. No one seems to be stepping up. We need an animal in the middle of the field. Makes me wish we would have gone after Hawke harder in the off season.

metalmichael · 11-04-2011, 10:43 PM

defense start at ss harper hes constantly beaten loss in coverage sorry harper good on rushing absolutly suck in coverage then its the lacking interor lineman jeessss shawn you are a monster get the lead out of your ass and get mean

Euphoria · 11-05-2011, 08:15 AM

OLB and DE's. Is where my money is. I guess we keep drafting them and hopefully we hit the lottery.

It really isn't a good sign when you're SS and FS or leading the team in tackles the next one on the list of ours is Greer!!!

I did some research and saw that about half the teams if the SS or FS even CB leading the team in tackles their D was below average or poor. If the D's were good their OLB or MLB was leading the team in tackles. Makes sense doesn't it?

Every team rotates players in certain situations. So I am not going to paint any excuses for our guys. You put your best players in situations to make plays. Our DE's and OLBs simply aren't getting the job down and getting crushed.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,789	Saints hoping to improve on 23rd-ranked run defense METAIRIE, La. – When the Saints signed defensive tackle Shaun Rogers prior to the NFL lockout, there were question marks as to whether he would A) fit in with the locker room and B) have the drive to succeed. The move to get Aubrayo Franklin was met with different sentiment. He was rated one of the best interior defensive linemen on the free agent market. Eight games into the season neither have stood out on the field and both have said little off of it. They have a combined 34 tackles with no sacks, no forced fumbles and no fumble recoveries. Full article. Saints hoping to improve on 23rd-ranked run defense \| wwltv.com New Orleans
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by halloween 65 What I can't see is our SS and FS being the ones with the most tackles on the team, this is one of those " COME ON MAN" moments. We need the boys to show up each and every game. Earn your money boys or next year someone hungry might. Not unexpected because Harper and Jenkins play nearly every snap. Our front four rotates 8 guys in and out so logically no one will rack up a lot of tackles. Now our LB's? Don't get me started. halloween 65 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Vilma is normally miles ahead in the tackle department, does anyone else think that this injury keeping him out of practice is affecting him during games, I just don't see his normal exploding towards the ball carrier as I used to. As for rogers and franklin, we were teased by the idea of two monsters stopping the run up the middle and even generating a steady pass rush, neither have come true. The turnovers aren't there and neither is the run defense, that's why they struggle, in 2009 our run D was average at best but the turnovers made up for it ( Darren sharper)
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546	How many tight ends do you think we'll draft this year? Better use every choice on defense. We are starting to look like the old Cardinals and Chargers. Great offense zero defense.
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BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	I agree with DANNO with all the rotation but them LB's and Shanle in particular UGGHH!
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	What I can't see is our SS and FS being the ones with the most tackles on the team, this is one of those " COME ON MAN" moments. We need the boys to show up each and every game. Earn your money boys or next year someone hungry might.

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AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	YEAHHHH SO MUCH FOR THAT BAD A D-LINE sspppphhhhhhsshhhhh

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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	We have to address linebacker in the draft, or in FA, after the season. No one seems to be stepping up. We need an animal in the middle of the field. Makes me wish we would have gone after Hawke harder in the off season.

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metalmichael Rookie Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 6	defense start at ss harper hes constantly beaten loss in coverage sorry harper good on rushing absolutly suck in coverage then its the lacking interor lineman jeessss shawn you are a monster get the lead out of your ass and get mean strato likes this.
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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	OLB and DE's. Is where my money is. I guess we keep drafting them and hopefully we hit the lottery. It really isn't a good sign when you're SS and FS or leading the team in tackles the next one on the list of ours is Greer!!! I did some research and saw that about half the teams if the SS or FS even CB leading the team in tackles their D was below average or poor. If the D's were good their OLB or MLB was leading the team in tackles. Makes sense doesn't it? Every team rotates players in certain situations. So I am not going to paint any excuses for our guys. You put your best players in situations to make plays. Our DE's and OLBs simply aren't getting the job down and getting crushed.
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