SMith talks about the 4th down play

Rugby Saint II · 11-14-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Hopefully this will cure him forever of that thing he has about going for it on fourth down against the Saints. He has been doing that so many times against us, and getting away with it a lot of the time, especially in that first Falcons/Saints game in the Superdome last year. Frankly I think it kind of reeks of desperation. You look at the whole series of him vs. Payton and he is clearly getting outcoached.

CLEARLY OUT COACHED!

saintfan · 11-14-2011, 10:37 AM

After a night to think about it and after hearing his and other's explanations it comes down to this:

Fear.

Look, he can talk about "we should be good enough to get a yard" until he's red in the face. He can talk about liking his guys and having faith in them to get it done all he wants.

It's double-speak because he DIDN'T have faith in his guys, in particular his defensive guys. That call wasn't about faith in anything. Instead it was about his fear of Drew Brees and the Saints Offense.

skymike · 11-14-2011, 10:38 AM

I just think Christmas CAME EARLY!

Rugby Saint II · 11-14-2011, 10:45 AM

Clearly he was out coached.

ScottF · 11-14-2011, 11:19 AM

again, he risked an entire division-rival-for-first-place game so that he could retain possesion on his own 30
stupid

neugey · 11-14-2011, 02:33 PM

Smith should've ran a QB sneak and then he probably would've gotten it. The handoff allowed the Saints LB's and Safeties enough time to crash into the pile.

Budsdrinker · 11-14-2011, 02:58 PM

I love his arrogance.

claus808 · 11-14-2011, 03:15 PM

Colin Cowherd on the Herd this morning explained it perfectly as to why it was a bad move. He was saying the only thing they would have gained is a first down, ON their 30yd line. The risk is too high to gamble on something like that on your own 30. They had just made the saints go 3 and out the possession before.

I completely agree with him on that. Mike Smith was a dumbass for doing that.

UK_WhoDat · 11-14-2011, 03:57 PM

I think Mike Smith lacked mental stamina. His brain got messed by the plays to send the game into overtime (even though it benefitted the Falcons). And not getting a score on the 1st drive of overtime sent his brain into meltdown.

http://www.joanneburrell.com/blog/wp...in-melting.jpg

papz · 11-14-2011, 05:05 PM

Didn't think about it at first... but it's a similar to what Bilichick did a while back against the Colts.

Honestly, I would have went for it too. If he would have made it and drove down field to kick a field goal... he would have been a genius. Oh well... suckers! =]

11-14-2011, 10:42 AM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Originally Posted by SaintsBro Hopefully this will cure him forever of that thing he has about going for it on fourth down against the Saints. He has been doing that so many times against us, and getting away with it a lot of the time, especially in that first Falcons/Saints game in the Superdome last year. Frankly I think it kind of reeks of desperation. You look at the whole series of him vs. Payton and he is clearly getting outcoached. CLEARLY OUT COACHED!

11-14-2011, 10:37 AM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	After a night to think about it and after hearing his and other's explanations it comes down to this: Fear. Look, he can talk about "we should be good enough to get a yard" until he's red in the face. He can talk about liking his guys and having faith in them to get it done all he wants. It's double-speak because he DIDN'T have faith in his guys, in particular his defensive guys. That call wasn't about faith in anything. Instead it was about his fear of Drew Brees and the Saints Offense.
	C'mon Man...

11-14-2011, 10:38 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	I just think Christmas CAME EARLY! neugey likes this.

11-14-2011, 03:15 PM	#8
claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Colin Cowherd on the Herd this morning explained it perfectly as to why it was a bad move. He was saying the only thing they would have gained is a first down, ON their 30yd line. The risk is too high to gamble on something like that on your own 30. They had just made the saints go 3 and out the possession before. I completely agree with him on that. Mike Smith was a dumbass for doing that. strato likes this.

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11-14-2011, 10:45 AM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Clearly he was out coached.

11-14-2011, 11:19 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	again, he risked an entire division-rival-for-first-place game so that he could retain possesion on his own 30 stupid

11-14-2011, 02:33 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Smith should've ran a QB sneak and then he probably would've gotten it. The handoff allowed the Saints LB's and Safeties enough time to crash into the pile.

11-14-2011, 02:58 PM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	I love his arrogance.

11-14-2011, 03:57 PM	#9
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	I think Mike Smith lacked mental stamina. His brain got messed by the plays to send the game into overtime (even though it benefitted the Falcons). And not getting a score on the 1st drive of overtime sent his brain into meltdown. http://www.joanneburrell.com/blog/wp...in-melting.jpg

11-14-2011, 05:05 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Didn't think about it at first... but it's a similar to what Bilichick did a while back against the Colts. Honestly, I would have went for it too. If he would have made it and drove down field to kick a field goal... he would have been a genius. Oh well... suckers! =]