Re-Focused – Saints @ Falcons, Week 10

biloxi-indian · 11-14-2011, 10:08 AM

Not a glowing perspective, but a win nevertheless.

"A shining beacon for any offense to target

How the Saints persist with such a terrible group of linebackers is baffling at times, yet no more baffling than what they ask of a group that seems to struggle to do the very basics well most of the time. Even with the entirely underwhelming Jonathan Vilma on the sideline the Saints managed to field a trio that put in terrible performances. Jonathan Casillas (-3.7) was the highest graded Saints linebacker this week, getting the only positive grade for any facet of the game with a marginal +0.3 grade for his run defense. The trio of Casillas, JoLonn Dunbar (-4.9) and Scott Shanle (-6.3) managed to find the imperfect blend of looking completely lost, taking poor angles and terrible tackling to achieve the holy trinity of poor linebacking play. Their comical defense of Jason Snelling’s touchdown reception at 5:18 in the third quarter was just the tip of the iceberg of their awful display."

Re-Focused - Saints @ Falcons, Week 10 | ProFootballFocus.com

dizzle88 · 11-14-2011, 10:12 AM

Alot has to do with the defensive strategy, Matt Ryan went into the 2 minute offense and they left harry douglas uncovered 3 times.
Looked like they didn't know what they were doing..but we won

sometimes... I wish we'd go to a basic D, all man coverage, Jenkins deep zone, Harper near the line and everybody else in the box unless theirs a slot receiver, then an OLB takes him

we insist on sending 7 men blitzes at times and think "oh the QB will never notice we've left that slot receiver unmarked"

JoanieNTX · 11-14-2011, 11:22 AM

Yes, we definitely need to "change up" our two minute drill, or PRAY that all other opponents don't look at the film and decide to go with that "two minute" drill the whole game long! Ugh. It wasn't pretty!

AlaskaSaints · 11-14-2011, 11:26 AM

Nobody calling for G.W.'s head today? I find that shocking.

We were offensively and defensively inept yesterday, with the exception of a few highlights. Colston was above and beyond. Kasay was a blessing. Meachem his usual CLUTCH self. Sproles was one shoestring away from 6.

Graham left 40 first-quarter yards on the field.
Ingram left 50 yards on the field.
Sproles was utilized horribly, but did what he could.
We under-utilized Moore.
We ignored Henderson.
We need to develop a no-huddle offensive package and leave it to Drew to make the calls. And utilize it to get ahead, not just to catch up. I'm tired of catch-up-to-win football.

That was ugly. But it was a win.

I'm sorry to be such a downer, but I got a full two years of my life taken off yesterday and I don't appreciate it.

Alaska

Rugby Saint II · 11-14-2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Nobody calling for G.W.'s head today? I find that shocking.

We were offensively and defensively inept yesterday, with the exception of a few highlights. Colston was above and beyond. Kasay was a blessing. Meachem his usual CLUTCH self. Sproles was one shoestring away from 6.

Graham left 40 first-quarter yards on the field.
Ingram left 50 yards on the field.
Sproles was utilized horribly, but did what he could.
We under-utilized Moore.
We ignored Henderson.
We need to develop a no-huddle offensive package and leave it to Drew to make the calls. And utilize it to get ahead, not just to catch up. I'm tired of catch-up-to-win football.

That was ugly. But it was a win.

I'm sorry to be such a downer, but I got a full two years of my life taken off yesterday and I don't appreciate it.

Alaska

I was at a rugby tournament and didn't get to see the game. I didn't even think of recording the game(which I've done every week)....I guess having missed that game I'll live longer.lol

strato · 11-14-2011, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I was at a rugby tournament and didn't get to see the game. I didn't even think of recording the game(which I've done every week)....I guess having missed that game I'll live longer.lol

Then how can you rag on Graham?...if you didnt see the game..dude had 87 yards and was getting cheapsots the whole game..

Danno · 11-14-2011, 12:15 PM

A shining beacon for any offense to target

...the Saints managed to field a trio that put in terrible performances. Jonathan Casillas (-3.7) was the highest graded Saints linebacker this week, getting the only positive grade for any facet of the game with a marginal +0.3 grade for his run defense. The trio of Casillas, JoLonn Dunbar (-4.9) and Scott Shanle (-6.3) managed to find the imperfect blend of looking completely lost, taking poor angles and terrible tackling to achieve the holy trinity of poor linebacking play. Their comical defense of Jason Snelling’s touchdown reception at 5:18 in the third quarter was just the tip of the iceberg of their awful display.

I still don't know why some thought Shanle had a good day. Other than the pick that fell in his lap (he would have given up a big gainer if Roddy doesn't drop it) he had a typical Shanle day.

pumpkindriver · 11-14-2011, 12:17 PM

We just don't play well on the road. I understand the concept of the prevent defense but it always seems to get teams in trouble. Teams often get burned by it just like we did yesterday. If we had just kept doing what we had been doing the entire second half, I don't think the foul-cons woulda even scored much less got to OT.

strato · 11-14-2011, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I still don't know why some thought Shanle had a good day. Other than the pick that fell in his lap (he would have given up a big gainer if Roddy doesn't drop it) he had a typical Shanle day.

He was solid..and has been ...he is the whipping boy..thats all this is..

Danno · 11-14-2011, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by strato

He was solid..and has been ...he is the whipping boy..thats all this is..

If by solid you mean slightly below average, then I agree 100%.

11-14-2011, 10:08 AM	#1
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re-Focused – Saints @ Falcons, Week 10 Not a glowing perspective, but a win nevertheless. "A shining beacon for any offense to target How the Saints persist with such a terrible group of linebackers is baffling at times, yet no more baffling than what they ask of a group that seems to struggle to do the very basics well most of the time. Even with the entirely underwhelming Jonathan Vilma on the sideline the Saints managed to field a trio that put in terrible performances. Jonathan Casillas (-3.7) was the highest graded Saints linebacker this week, getting the only positive grade for any facet of the game with a marginal +0.3 grade for his run defense. The trio of Casillas, JoLonn Dunbar (-4.9) and Scott Shanle (-6.3) managed to find the imperfect blend of looking completely lost, taking poor angles and terrible tackling to achieve the holy trinity of poor linebacking play. Their comical defense of Jason Snelling’s touchdown reception at 5:18 in the third quarter was just the tip of the iceberg of their awful display." Re-Focused - Saints @ Falcons, Week 10 \| ProFootballFocus.com AlaskaSaints likes this.
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11-14-2011, 10:12 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Alot has to do with the defensive strategy, Matt Ryan went into the 2 minute offense and they left harry douglas uncovered 3 times. Looked like they didn't know what they were doing..but we won sometimes... I wish we'd go to a basic D, all man coverage, Jenkins deep zone, Harper near the line and everybody else in the box unless theirs a slot receiver, then an OLB takes him we insist on sending 7 men blitzes at times and think "oh the QB will never notice we've left that slot receiver unmarked" AlaskaSaints likes this.

11-14-2011, 11:22 AM	#3
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Yes, we definitely need to "change up" our two minute drill, or PRAY that all other opponents don't look at the film and decide to go with that "two minute" drill the whole game long! Ugh. It wasn't pretty! AlaskaSaints likes this.

11-14-2011, 11:26 AM	#4
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Nobody calling for G.W.'s head today? I find that shocking. We were offensively and defensively inept yesterday, with the exception of a few highlights. Colston was above and beyond. Kasay was a blessing. Meachem his usual CLUTCH self. Sproles was one shoestring away from 6. Graham left 40 first-quarter yards on the field. Ingram left 50 yards on the field. Sproles was utilized horribly, but did what he could. We under-utilized Moore. We ignored Henderson. We need to develop a no-huddle offensive package and leave it to Drew to make the calls. And utilize it to get ahead, not just to catch up. I'm tired of catch-up-to-win football. That was ugly. But it was a win. I'm sorry to be such a downer, but I got a full two years of my life taken off yesterday and I don't appreciate it. Alaska
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11-14-2011, 11:51 AM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Nobody calling for G.W.'s head today? I find that shocking. We were offensively and defensively inept yesterday, with the exception of a few highlights. Colston was above and beyond. Kasay was a blessing. Meachem his usual CLUTCH self. Sproles was one shoestring away from 6. Graham left 40 first-quarter yards on the field. Ingram left 50 yards on the field. Sproles was utilized horribly, but did what he could. We under-utilized Moore. We ignored Henderson. We need to develop a no-huddle offensive package and leave it to Drew to make the calls. And utilize it to get ahead, not just to catch up. I'm tired of catch-up-to-win football. That was ugly. But it was a win. I'm sorry to be such a downer, but I got a full two years of my life taken off yesterday and I don't appreciate it. Alaska I was at a rugby tournament and didn't get to see the game. I didn't even think of recording the game(which I've done every week)....I guess having missed that game I'll live longer.lol

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11-14-2011, 11:58 AM	#6
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I was at a rugby tournament and didn't get to see the game. I didn't even think of recording the game(which I've done every week)....I guess having missed that game I'll live longer.lol Then how can you rag on Graham?...if you didnt see the game..dude had 87 yards and was getting cheapsots the whole game..

11-14-2011, 12:15 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	A shining beacon for any offense to target ...the Saints managed to field a trio that put in terrible performances. Jonathan Casillas (-3.7) was the highest graded Saints linebacker this week, getting the only positive grade for any facet of the game with a marginal +0.3 grade for his run defense. The trio of Casillas, JoLonn Dunbar (-4.9) and Scott Shanle (-6.3) managed to find the imperfect blend of looking completely lost, taking poor angles and terrible tackling to achieve the holy trinity of poor linebacking play. Their comical defense of Jason Snelling’s touchdown reception at 5:18 in the third quarter was just the tip of the iceberg of their awful display. I still don't know why some thought Shanle had a good day. Other than the pick that fell in his lap (he would have given up a big gainer if Roddy doesn't drop it) he had a typical Shanle day.

11-14-2011, 12:17 PM	#8
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	We just don't play well on the road. I understand the concept of the prevent defense but it always seems to get teams in trouble. Teams often get burned by it just like we did yesterday. If we had just kept doing what we had been doing the entire second half, I don't think the foul-cons woulda even scored much less got to OT.

11-14-2011, 12:18 PM	#9
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Danno I still don't know why some thought Shanle had a good day. Other than the pick that fell in his lap (he would have given up a big gainer if Roddy doesn't drop it) he had a typical Shanle day. He was solid..and has been ...he is the whipping boy..thats all this is..

11-14-2011, 12:21 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by strato He was solid..and has been ...he is the whipping boy..thats all this is.. If by solid you mean slightly below average, then I agree 100%.