Hindsight > Perfect Vision: Cameron Jordan

jeanpierre · 11-14-2011, 06:44 PM

Rookie Cam Jordan, along with Rookie Mark Ingram has done something that no first round pick has done since Sedrlck Ellis Rookie Season - Start...

While it's still early, Jordan was expected to provide fresh legs, along with his fresh mouth, in the pass rush department; well, at least he's keeping his trap shut 'cause he has recorded no sacks and only fourteen tackles to date...

In contrast, rookie Brooks Reed, picked in the second round by Planet Houston has Five Sacks to geaux with twenty-seven (27) tackles; this, after getting replacement time for IR casualty Mario Williams...

Free Agent Andre Carter, formerly a Redskin, has thirty-eight (38) tackles and nine (9) sacks...

So, is Jordan getting it done or does he need better, improved effort?

Danno · 11-14-2011, 06:48 PM

Jordan is in a 4-man rotation at DE, sometimes 5. He's not gonna put up stats that blow you away.

The bottom line is that you can see flashes from both players. Thats good enough for me.

jnormand · 11-14-2011, 07:08 PM

Good point Danno. It would be nice to see him get some sacks but he does rotate a lot. It does make me wonder what kind of game he would turn in if he was used exclusively. Same with Ingram.

Seer1 · 11-14-2011, 07:25 PM

I thought Cam looked pretty good when he was in yesterday. It'd be interesting to see Ingram do something other than take it straight up their throat when everybody and their mother knows that's what he's gonna do....

Barry from MS · 11-14-2011, 07:55 PM

It's the defensive system, I'm thinkin'. I mean, how does your SS lead the team in sacks? 21 sacks, and nearly half of those are from DB's. He needs to improve, though. It looks as though he is still uncomfortable from lack of experience. I'd like to make an educated guess after the bye, when he gets the opportunity to learn the defense better. Whether he takes that opportunity...well...he's a big boy, and getting paid to get better. If he doesn't over the next couple of years, we've got us a cross between Grant and Sullivan. Ewww...

jnormand · 11-14-2011, 07:58 PM

That's funny...I could have swore Danno made a comment before me. Well....it was there and for the record it was a good point.

jeanpierre · 11-15-2011, 12:31 AM

Fair statements and assessments, but, no sacks? I mean, none?

We're in Week 11 and I'm having concerns of former NY Jet bust Gholston...

Most indications were that he'd be disruptive with a nice sack stat line...

dizzle88 · 11-15-2011, 07:31 AM

He got a sack vs bucs on josh freeman, but the refs called the holding penalty on the bucs which got rid of it lol freemans knee was down, I'd like to see him have a bigger role and get some sacks though

Mardigras9 · 11-15-2011, 07:35 AM

Agreed, what does it say that Harper leads in both?

Danno · 11-15-2011, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Agreed, what does it say that Harper leads in both?

A- Harper' s a real good player
B- GW plays Harper 100% of the time
C- GW places Harper in position to acquire sacks and tackles

Our front 4 does need to step it up and they've looked a little better the last few games, but they still need to improve a lot.

Our LB's are pitiful. Throughout the Atlanta game Turner was hitting the 2nd level exactly where one of our LB's should be but wasn't. Shanle was no where to be seen on numerous runs.

11-14-2011, 06:44 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Hindsight > Perfect Vision: Cameron Jordan Rookie Cam Jordan, along with Rookie Mark Ingram has done something that no first round pick has done since Sedrlck Ellis Rookie Season - Start... While it's still early, Jordan was expected to provide fresh legs, along with his fresh mouth, in the pass rush department; well, at least he's keeping his trap shut 'cause he has recorded no sacks and only fourteen tackles to date... In contrast, rookie Brooks Reed, picked in the second round by Planet Houston has Five Sacks to geaux with twenty-seven (27) tackles; this, after getting replacement time for IR casualty Mario Williams... Free Agent Andre Carter, formerly a Redskin, has thirty-eight (38) tackles and nine (9) sacks... So, is Jordan getting it done or does he need better, improved effort?
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11-14-2011, 07:08 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,655	Good point Danno. It would be nice to see him get some sacks but he does rotate a lot. It does make me wonder what kind of game he would turn in if he was used exclusively. Same with Ingram. Ashley likes this.

11-15-2011, 08:29 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,715	Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Agreed, what does it say that Harper leads in both? A- Harper' s a real good player B- GW plays Harper 100% of the time C- GW places Harper in position to acquire sacks and tackles Our front 4 does need to step it up and they've looked a little better the last few games, but they still need to improve a lot. Our LB's are pitiful. Throughout the Atlanta game Turner was hitting the 2nd level exactly where one of our LB's should be but wasn't. Shanle was no where to be seen on numerous runs.

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11-14-2011, 06:48 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,715	Jordan is in a 4-man rotation at DE, sometimes 5. He's not gonna put up stats that blow you away. The bottom line is that you can see flashes from both players. Thats good enough for me.

11-14-2011, 07:25 PM	#4
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	I thought Cam looked pretty good when he was in yesterday. It'd be interesting to see Ingram do something other than take it straight up their throat when everybody and their mother knows that's what he's gonna do....

11-14-2011, 07:55 PM	#5
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	It's the defensive system, I'm thinkin'. I mean, how does your SS lead the team in sacks? 21 sacks, and nearly half of those are from DB's. He needs to improve, though. It looks as though he is still uncomfortable from lack of experience. I'd like to make an educated guess after the bye, when he gets the opportunity to learn the defense better. Whether he takes that opportunity...well...he's a big boy, and getting paid to get better. If he doesn't over the next couple of years, we've got us a cross between Grant and Sullivan. Ewww...

11-14-2011, 07:58 PM	#6
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,655	That's funny...I could have swore Danno made a comment before me. Well....it was there and for the record it was a good point.

11-15-2011, 12:31 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Fair statements and assessments, but, no sacks? I mean, none? We're in Week 11 and I'm having concerns of former NY Jet bust Gholston... Most indications were that he'd be disruptive with a nice sack stat line...

11-15-2011, 07:31 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,139	He got a sack vs bucs on josh freeman, but the refs called the holding penalty on the bucs which got rid of it lol freemans knee was down, I'd like to see him have a bigger role and get some sacks though

11-15-2011, 07:35 AM	#9
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Agreed, what does it say that Harper leads in both?