Saints Grades At the Bye

11-15-2011, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Tell us how you really feel why don't you.

As great as you think they've been, there has been deficiencies and consistency issues. One could say to completely ignore it, would be just plain ignorance as well.

Yep, we're too inconsistent. One game we do well, the next we're pathetic.

While I agree its not as bad as some suggest, it's certainly not great either.

Inconsistency is probably why most view it as average to below average, and there's nothing "ignorant" about that.

2.6 per carry, 41 yards against Atlanta?
2.8 per carry, 56 yards against the Rams?
6.2 per carry, 236 yards in the Colt blowout?
3.5 per carry, 70 yards in the 1st Bucs game?
7.0 per carry, 195 yards in the 2nd Bucs game?

CantonLegend · 11-15-2011, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Tell us how you really feel why don't you.

As great as you think they've been, there has been deficiencies and consistency issues. One could say to completely ignore it, would be just plain ignorance as well.

Originally Posted by Danno

Yep, we're too inconsistent. One game we do well, the next we're pathetic.

While I agree its not as bad as some suggest, it's certainly not great either.

Inconsistency is probably why most view it as average to below average, and there's nothing "ignorant" about that.

inconsistancy is created by rotations

ingram averaged less than 2 carries per quarter against the falcons. our leading rusher is getting less than 2 carries a quarter and you expect anything to be consistant about that? over the season hes only averaging 11 carries per game(8 games). do the math.....less than 3 carries per quarter of each game

what other running back in the league leads his team in carries with less than 3 per quarter?

the only thing consistant about our offense is 40+ passes per game

you wanna talk about consistancy? play calling makes us inconsistant on the ground.....not the execution of those plays

Danno · 11-15-2011, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

inconsistancy is created by rotations

ingram averaged less than 2 carries per quarter against the falcons. our leading rusher is getting less than 2 carries a quarter and you expect anything to be consistant about that? over the season hes only averaging 11 carries per game(8 games). do the math.....less than 3 carries per quarter of each game

what other running back in the league leads his team in carries with less than 3 per quarter?

the only thing consistant about our offense is 40+ passes per game

you wanna talk about consistancy? play calling makes us inconsistant on the ground.....not the execution of those plays

So it sounds like you agree with the inconsistency issues raised by many. Glad you finally figured it out.

CantonLegend · 11-15-2011, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So it sounds like you agree with the inconsistency issues raised by many. Glad you finally figured it out.

inconsistancy in balance and play calling is completely different from not being able to execute

we are a very good passing team and a pretty good running team.....we just pass too much and run too little and it creates a lot more problems for our team than it solves

Danno · 11-15-2011, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

inconsistancy in balance and play calling is completely different from not being able to execute

we are a very good passing team and a pretty good running team.....we just pass too much and run too little and it creates a lot more problems for our team than it solves

Hence the average grades for the rush offense.

CantonLegend · 11-15-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Hence the average grades for the rush offense.

which is 8th best in the league.....im not sure what you are arguing here?

we are a good running team

Danno · 11-15-2011, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

which is 8th best in the league.....im not sure what you are arguing here?

we are a good running team

But we are inconsistent, as you also stated.

It appears you're arguing with yourself.

Euphoria · 11-15-2011, 07:44 PM

I don't think we are running the ball effectively. I also don't care much for stats either, one can make them into anything you like to make them into.

I haven't seen that we can run the ball effectively in any game this year. One that would require us to run the ball and not throw a lot.

If we had to rely on a running game we are SOL.

But I am also a believer that you can't come out and say 'ok we are a running team, lets run the ball' and be a good running team. Running game takes time to develop. So I give them a pass at the moment but next year... look out. Its do or die for the running game.

papz · 11-15-2011, 07:45 PM

I was wondering what I was going to respond with. Is there even an debate or someone just validating what we're essentially saying?

AlaskaSaints · 11-15-2011, 07:57 PM

Yes, Halo, agreed, but the "Aints" is now the "Is's"!!!!
We've seen near-perfection and we like it!
There's no disrespect in demanding respect!

LOL

Alaska
(basking in the glow of a division lead)

11-15-2011, 06:45 PM	#21
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by papz Tell us how you really feel why don't you. As great as you think they've been, there has been deficiencies and consistency issues. One could say to completely ignore it, would be just plain ignorance as well. Yep, we're too inconsistent. One game we do well, the next we're pathetic. While I agree its not as bad as some suggest, it's certainly not great either. Inconsistency is probably why most view it as average to below average, and there's nothing "ignorant" about that. 2.6 per carry, 41 yards against Atlanta? 2.8 per carry, 56 yards against the Rams? 6.2 per carry, 236 yards in the Colt blowout? 3.5 per carry, 70 yards in the 1st Bucs game? 7.0 per carry, 195 yards in the 2nd Bucs game?
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11-15-2011, 07:11 PM	#22
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by papz Tell us how you really feel why don't you. As great as you think they've been, there has been deficiencies and consistency issues. One could say to completely ignore it, would be just plain ignorance as well. Originally Posted by Danno Yep, we're too inconsistent. One game we do well, the next we're pathetic. While I agree its not as bad as some suggest, it's certainly not great either. Inconsistency is probably why most view it as average to below average, and there's nothing "ignorant" about that. inconsistancy is created by rotations ingram averaged less than 2 carries per quarter against the falcons. our leading rusher is getting less than 2 carries a quarter and you expect anything to be consistant about that? over the season hes only averaging 11 carries per game(8 games). do the math.....less than 3 carries per quarter of each game what other running back in the league leads his team in carries with less than 3 per quarter? the only thing consistant about our offense is 40+ passes per game you wanna talk about consistancy? play calling makes us inconsistant on the ground.....not the execution of those plays
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11-15-2011, 07:15 PM	#23
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by CantonLegend inconsistancy is created by rotations ingram averaged less than 2 carries per quarter against the falcons. our leading rusher is getting less than 2 carries a quarter and you expect anything to be consistant about that? over the season hes only averaging 11 carries per game(8 games). do the math.....less than 3 carries per quarter of each game what other running back in the league leads his team in carries with less than 3 per quarter? the only thing consistant about our offense is 40+ passes per game you wanna talk about consistancy? play calling makes us inconsistant on the ground.....not the execution of those plays So it sounds like you agree with the inconsistency issues raised by many. Glad you finally figured it out. papz likes this.

11-15-2011, 07:17 PM	#24
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Danno So it sounds like you agree with the inconsistency issues raised by many. Glad you finally figured it out. inconsistancy in balance and play calling is completely different from not being able to execute we are a very good passing team and a pretty good running team.....we just pass too much and run too little and it creates a lot more problems for our team than it solves

11-15-2011, 07:19 PM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by CantonLegend inconsistancy in balance and play calling is completely different from not being able to execute we are a very good passing team and a pretty good running team.....we just pass too much and run too little and it creates a lot more problems for our team than it solves Hence the average grades for the rush offense.

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11-15-2011, 07:27 PM	#26
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Danno Hence the average grades for the rush offense. which is 8th best in the league.....im not sure what you are arguing here? we are a good running team

11-15-2011, 07:35 PM	#27
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by CantonLegend which is 8th best in the league.....im not sure what you are arguing here? we are a good running team But we are inconsistent, as you also stated. It appears you're arguing with yourself.

11-15-2011, 07:44 PM	#28
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I don't think we are running the ball effectively. I also don't care much for stats either, one can make them into anything you like to make them into. I haven't seen that we can run the ball effectively in any game this year. One that would require us to run the ball and not throw a lot. If we had to rely on a running game we are SOL. But I am also a believer that you can't come out and say 'ok we are a running team, lets run the ball' and be a good running team. Running game takes time to develop. So I give them a pass at the moment but next year... look out. Its do or die for the running game.
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11-15-2011, 07:45 PM	#29
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	I was wondering what I was going to respond with. Is there even an debate or someone just validating what we're essentially saying?

11-15-2011, 07:57 PM	#30
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Yes, Halo, agreed, but the "Aints" is now the "Is's"!!!! We've seen near-perfection and we like it! There's no disrespect in demanding respect! LOL Alaska (basking in the glow of a division lead) Euphoria and CantonLegend like this.

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