Malcolm Jenkins looks up to Suh after that play.. WTF???

AlaskaSaints · 11-26-2011, 12:58 PM

Anyone remember when Roman Harper went out of his way to flatten Steve Smith of the Panthers, causing a bench-clearing brawl?

We defended that.

We gotta be careful how we point at Suh, although he was CRIMINAL in this instance.

A lying criminal.

Alaska

saintfan · 11-26-2011, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Anyone remember when Roman Harper went out of his way to flatten Steve Smith of the Panthers, causing a bench-clearing brawl?

We defended that.

We gotta be careful how we point at Suh, although he was CRIMINAL in this instance.

A lying criminal.

Alaska

You're right, and I don't want to be labeled as someone defending what he did after that play.

Still, sometimes you gotta slobber knock somebody (yes, within the rules...all legal like) but as I've said and as we all know, there's crap to goes on 'in the trenches' and in piles after a fumble that would get half the league suspended if, somehow, the NFL could catch them all.

I am reminded of two expressions:
"It's only illegal if you get caught"
"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'"

It's easy to take the high road in situations like this one, but people throwing Jenkins under the bus for his comments are doing so without context.

If he said, "Yeah, hell yeah. I admire someone who plays dirty", then yeah, but that's not precisely what he said, and in fact may not be anywhere near what he said.

But the vigilantes are already out in full force. For Malcom's sake I hope he learns a valuable lesson. That lesson is beware the court of public opinion, because they'll crucify you without a trial.

Danno · 11-26-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I am reminded of two expressions:
"It's only illegal if you get caught"
"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'"

I have issues with both those expressions...

"It's only illegal if you get caught" - No its still illegal even if you don't get caught.

"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' - No, you can try without cheating

saintfan · 11-26-2011, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I have issues with both those expressions...

"It's only illegal if you get caught" - No its still illegal even if you don't get caught.

"If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' - No, you can try without cheating

You can have issues with them. You have heard them both though, because they are used time and again. It's not a discussion on right on wrong, at least not on my part.

Fact is, there is no context in what Jenkins said on the receiving end of his twitter comment, and yet everybody wants to hold him accountable for something. For what, exactly?

I think he said he wan't talking about the dirty play. He said, "I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like."

So what part of that is he being strung up for? Frankly I like the way Suh plays, and yes I agree the stomp was a little much, but I like his intensity. So I agree 100% with Jenkins. And further I think BOTH our o and d lines would be wise to play with a similar intensity.

Now that's just my .05. The mob will have their say.

Danno · 11-26-2011, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I think he said he wan't talking about the dirty play. He said, "I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like."

So what part of that is he being strung up for? Frankly I like the way Suh plays, and yes I agree the stomp was a little much, but I like his intensity. So I agree 100% with Jenkins. And further I think BOTH our o and d lines would be wise to play with a similar intensity.

Now that's just my .05. The mob will have their say.

Well to say the stomp was "a little much" irks me. It was a LOT much.

And Suh's had the dirty player rep for two years now, and Jenkins states he likes the way he plays. To me, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, that means Malcolm is OK with his overall style of play.

I read that as Malcolm admires players who play dirty.

saintfan · 11-26-2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well to say the stomp was "a little much" irks me. It was a LOT much.

And Suh's had the dirty player rep for two years now, and Jenkins states he likes the way he plays. To me, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, that means Malcolm is OK with his overall style of play.

I read that as Malcolm admires players who play dirty.

To me I read that as Malcom admires his intensity. I guess my point is nobody knows what he meant, and I've yet to read where anybody has asked him.

We don't know what he meant, or at least "I" don't know what he meant, and until I do know I'm going to reserve any judgement. I don't think Jenkins is even remotely close to being a dirty player, so I am able to give him the benefit of the doubt.

11-26-2011, 12:58 PM	#1
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11-26-2011, 01:10 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Anyone remember when Roman Harper went out of his way to flatten Steve Smith of the Panthers, causing a bench-clearing brawl? We defended that. We gotta be careful how we point at Suh, although he was CRIMINAL in this instance. A lying criminal. Alaska You're right, and I don't want to be labeled as someone defending what he did after that play. Still, sometimes you gotta slobber knock somebody (yes, within the rules...all legal like) but as I've said and as we all know, there's crap to goes on 'in the trenches' and in piles after a fumble that would get half the league suspended if, somehow, the NFL could catch them all. I am reminded of two expressions: "It's only illegal if you get caught" "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" It's easy to take the high road in situations like this one, but people throwing Jenkins under the bus for his comments are doing so without context. If he said, "Yeah, hell yeah. I admire someone who plays dirty", then yeah, but that's not precisely what he said, and in fact may not be anywhere near what he said. But the vigilantes are already out in full force. For Malcom's sake I hope he learns a valuable lesson. That lesson is beware the court of public opinion, because they'll crucify you without a trial. Rugby Saint II likes this.
	C'mon Man...

11-26-2011, 01:12 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by saintfan I am reminded of two expressions: "It's only illegal if you get caught" "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" I have issues with both those expressions... "It's only illegal if you get caught" - No its still illegal even if you don't get caught. "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' - No, you can try without cheating Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-26-2011, 01:20 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno I have issues with both those expressions... "It's only illegal if you get caught" - No its still illegal even if you don't get caught. "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' - No, you can try without cheating You can have issues with them. You have heard them both though, because they are used time and again. It's not a discussion on right on wrong, at least not on my part. Fact is, there is no context in what Jenkins said on the receiving end of his twitter comment, and yet everybody wants to hold him accountable for something. For what, exactly? I think he said he wan't talking about the dirty play. He said, "I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like." So what part of that is he being strung up for? Frankly I like the way Suh plays, and yes I agree the stomp was a little much, but I like his intensity. So I agree 100% with Jenkins. And further I think BOTH our o and d lines would be wise to play with a similar intensity. Now that's just my .05. The mob will have their say.
	C'mon Man...

11-26-2011, 01:25 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by saintfan I think he said he wan't talking about the dirty play. He said, "I love the way Suh plays... The stomp was a lil much but everything else is what u are supposed to be like." So what part of that is he being strung up for? Frankly I like the way Suh plays, and yes I agree the stomp was a little much, but I like his intensity. So I agree 100% with Jenkins. And further I think BOTH our o and d lines would be wise to play with a similar intensity. Now that's just my .05. The mob will have their say. Well to say the stomp was "a little much" irks me. It was a LOT much. And Suh's had the dirty player rep for two years now, and Jenkins states he likes the way he plays. To me, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, that means Malcolm is OK with his overall style of play. I read that as Malcolm admires players who play dirty.

11-26-2011, 03:19 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno Well to say the stomp was "a little much" irks me. It was a LOT much. And Suh's had the dirty player rep for two years now, and Jenkins states he likes the way he plays. To me, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, that means Malcolm is OK with his overall style of play. I read that as Malcolm admires players who play dirty. To me I read that as Malcom admires his intensity. I guess my point is nobody knows what he meant, and I've yet to read where anybody has asked him. We don't know what he meant, or at least "I" don't know what he meant, and until I do know I'm going to reserve any judgement. I don't think Jenkins is even remotely close to being a dirty player, so I am able to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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