Offensive Lines: Mid-Season Report

papz · 12-09-2011, 07:39 AM

2. New Orleans Saints

Rank: Pass Blocking = 5th, Run Blocking = 5th, Penalties = 3rd

The Saints’ line has been extremely consistent, and worryingly for opponents, is really hitting its stride. Replacing Jon Stinchcomb with Zach Strief has helped, as has the emergence of Brian De La Puente. They may have lucked into it with Olin Kreutz walking away, but it led to them being able to match ‘DLP’ (let’s see if that will catch on) up with the ever excellent Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans to form the best interior in the league. Props as well to Jermon Bushrod for his improved play.

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CantonLegend · 12-09-2011, 03:26 PM

where are all the haters now?

Halo · 12-09-2011, 03:49 PM

In 2011, the Saints have suffered the most of ANY team in the NFL at offensive line.
In 2011, the Saints made the BIGGEST turnaround at the offensive line position that I've ever seen mid-season.

Everything has been different since the Rams game.

Zach Streif hurt after the Houston game
Another total trainwreck. AND Olin Kreutz was hurt that game.
Olin Kreutz, the starting center, takes off from the team - walks away
I have never seen anything like that before. Then again his play was just weak.
Charles Brown, playing backup to Strief and who everyone pointed fingers at during the Rams game, was probably playing that game hurt.

Somehow the line has re-gelled, especially with the return of Strief.
What a great story, coaching job, and stand up job by the players to pull it together.

xan · 12-09-2011, 04:34 PM

Depth is still a serious issue and I hold my breath every snap that a spin moving DE doesn't decapitate Brees. I'd like to see better run blocking at the point of attack.

ScottF · 12-09-2011, 04:40 PM

the recent running game success shows the development of this line
in past years the o-line would be ranked near the top in fewest sacks allowed, but we did not have the balance we do now.

...and is Dec 8 mid season now?

CantonLegend · 12-09-2011, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by xan

Depth is still a serious issue and I hold my breath every snap that a spin moving DE doesn't decapitate Brees. I'd like to see better run blocking at the point of attack.

we average 4.8 ypc.....how much better do you want us to be?

saintfan · 12-09-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

where are all the haters now?

We're still here. Looks like those of us complaining about the line early on might have been complaining about something that was factual? Hmmmm....

CantonLegend · 12-09-2011, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We're still here. Looks like those of us complaining about the line early on might have been complaining about something that was factual? Hmmmm....

complaining about a line that had no time to gel with 2 backups starting

what it seems like to me is that a bunch of whiney impatient fans couldnt give a unit time to work together and figure each other out

no there was nothing to complain about early on just like there's nothing to complain about now

eat your crow and be done with it

Danno · 12-09-2011, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

complaining about a line that had no time to gel with 2 backups starting

what it seems like to me is that a bunch of whiney impatient fans couldnt give a unit time to work together and figure each other out

no there was nothing to complain about early on just like there's nothing to complain about now

eat your crow and be done with it

LMAO!!!

Here's a couple of YOUR recent gems...

10-13-2011...kreutz nicks and evans make up the best interior in the league. PERIOD

10-17-2011... actually kreutz is one of our better linemen this season

10-22-2011 ...DLP was playing worse than kreutz.

11-14-2011...if you wanna bring up stinch and kreutz why not do it in their threads? we saw a dropoff in play with both of them gone

11-12-2011...(Shanle) hes been our best backer this season

11-21-2011... kreutz was doing well and stinch was one of the best RTs in the league

Now WTF were you saying about crow?

LMAO!!!

CantonLegend · 12-09-2011, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

LMAO!!!

Here's a couple of YOUR recent gems...

Now WTF were you saying about crow?

LMAO!!!

ive been right about every single one of those things

you have some crow to eat too.....go ahead....dig in

12-09-2011, 07:39 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Offensive Lines: Mid-Season Report 2. New Orleans Saints Rank: Pass Blocking = 5th, Run Blocking = 5th, Penalties = 3rd The Saints’ line has been extremely consistent, and worryingly for opponents, is really hitting its stride. Replacing Jon Stinchcomb with Zach Strief has helped, as has the emergence of Brian De La Puente. They may have lucked into it with Olin Kreutz walking away, but it led to them being able to match ‘DLP’ (let’s see if that will catch on) up with the ever excellent Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans to form the best interior in the league. Props as well to Jermon Bushrod for his improved play. Offensive Lines: Mid-Season Report \| ProFootballFocus.com Halo likes this.
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12-09-2011, 03:49 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,718 Blog Entries: 45	In 2011, the Saints have suffered the most of ANY team in the NFL at offensive line. In 2011, the Saints made the BIGGEST turnaround at the offensive line position that I've ever seen mid-season. Everything has been different since the Rams game. Zach Streif hurt after the Houston game Another total trainwreck. AND Olin Kreutz was hurt that game. Olin Kreutz, the starting center, takes off from the team - walks away I have never seen anything like that before. Then again his play was just weak. Charles Brown, playing backup to Strief and who everyone pointed fingers at during the Rams game, was probably playing that game hurt. Somehow the line has re-gelled, especially with the return of Strief. What a great story, coaching job, and stand up job by the players to pull it together. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-09-2011, 04:48 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by xan Depth is still a serious issue and I hold my breath every snap that a spin moving DE doesn't decapitate Brees. I'd like to see better run blocking at the point of attack. we average 4.8 ypc.....how much better do you want us to be?

12-09-2011, 04:54 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CantonLegend where are all the haters now? We're still here. Looks like those of us complaining about the line early on might have been complaining about something that was factual? Hmmmm.... ScottF likes this.

12-09-2011, 05:03 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintfan We're still here. Looks like those of us complaining about the line early on might have been complaining about something that was factual? Hmmmm.... complaining about a line that had no time to gel with 2 backups starting what it seems like to me is that a bunch of whiney impatient fans couldnt give a unit time to work together and figure each other out no there was nothing to complain about early on just like there's nothing to complain about now eat your crow and be done with it

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Depth is still a serious issue and I hold my breath every snap that a spin moving DE doesn't decapitate Brees. I'd like to see better run blocking at the point of attack.

12-09-2011, 04:40 PM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	the recent running game success shows the development of this line in past years the o-line would be ranked near the top in fewest sacks allowed, but we did not have the balance we do now. ...and is Dec 8 mid season now?

12-09-2011, 05:48 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by CantonLegend complaining about a line that had no time to gel with 2 backups starting what it seems like to me is that a bunch of whiney impatient fans couldnt give a unit time to work together and figure each other out no there was nothing to complain about early on just like there's nothing to complain about now eat your crow and be done with it LMAO!!! Here's a couple of YOUR recent gems... 10-13-2011...kreutz nicks and evans make up the best interior in the league. PERIOD 10-17-2011... actually kreutz is one of our better linemen this season 10-22-2011 ...DLP was playing worse than kreutz. 11-14-2011...if you wanna bring up stinch and kreutz why not do it in their threads? we saw a dropoff in play with both of them gone 11-12-2011...(Shanle) hes been our best backer this season 11-21-2011... kreutz was doing well and stinch was one of the best RTs in the league Now WTF were you saying about crow? LMAO!!!

12-09-2011, 05:51 PM	#10
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Danno LMAO!!! Here's a couple of YOUR recent gems... Now WTF were you saying about crow? LMAO!!! ive been right about every single one of those things you have some crow to eat too.....go ahead....dig in