Jimmy Graham catch somebody Please explain!!!!

ScottF · 12-11-2011, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Catching a ball..while... touching toes.... Gymnastics?

or a ghey olympic event

homerj07 · 12-11-2011, 07:37 PM

i wont say "no question" but...

Halo · 12-11-2011, 07:43 PM

As soon as we can find some video from youtube etc, would love to see it again. Anyone TiVo the game?

saintsfan1976 · 12-11-2011, 08:43 PM

Danno is correct. Toe in but heel out equals "out of bounds" and the same goes for heel in, toe out.

BUT,

In this case, Jimmy Graham's knee was down before the toe hit. Should have been called a touchdown. Period.

Euphoria · 12-11-2011, 08:51 PM

Yes but you can make a great catch with just your toes in bounds and your next complete foot or knee lands out of bounds its a catch. They make several of these highlights on ESPN weekly.

Another case this was a TD is that you DO NOT have to have both feet in bounds you can have a foot and a knee in which case its a TD they got it wrong by over looking his knee.

Danno · 12-11-2011, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Danno is correct. Toe in but heel out equals "out of bounds" and the same goes for heel in, toe out.

BUT,

In this case, Jimmy Graham's knee was down before the toe hit. Should have been called a touchdown. Period.

That pic is after his toe touched. The replay clearly showed his toe hit the line before his knee hit.

Euphoria · 12-11-2011, 08:55 PM

They explained the toe hitting one blade on white grass during the game and replay after replay... but his left foot and left knee let alone his ass where all in bounds before his toe when out of bounds...

A knee counts as a catch.

SaintsBro · 12-11-2011, 08:57 PM

I dunno about this particular call, which I thought was a touchdown, but I said this elsewhere --I don't know who they were, but I think that this particular officiating crew today seemed really unprepared for the fast pace and envelope-pushing style of the modern pro football game...it was kinda like they were a bit "behind" the whole game, or couldn't handle it, including bad spots of the ball, phantom flags (picked up, "there is no foul on the play"), that weird false start on Drew, and on the field they seemed very confused about the TD play where the Titans QB held the ball over the pylon, etc. They just didn't seem like they could handle the pace and speed of the game. And kicking it to review is not going to overturn the call on the field unless it's totally conclusive, so there was a lot of stuff going on that was just kinda doubtful or seemed like they couldn't keep up with what was happening on the field. Calls on both sides, in fact.

Danno · 12-11-2011, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

They explained the toe hitting one blade on white grass during the game and replay after replay... but his left foot and left knee let alone his ass where all in bounds before his toe when out of bounds...

A knee counts as a catch.

Yes it does, but the replay showed his toe touched BEFORE his knee touched.

OldMaid · 12-11-2011, 09:15 PM

As I saw it, his whole body was in first.
Tip of right foot? Barely if at all.
Knee down first. Whole body in. Keeping possession of ball the whole time.

12-11-2011, 07:30 PM	#21
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Catching a ball..while... touching toes.... Gymnastics? or a ghey olympic event

12-11-2011, 08:53 PM	#26
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Danno is correct. Toe in but heel out equals "out of bounds" and the same goes for heel in, toe out. BUT, In this case, Jimmy Graham's knee was down before the toe hit. Should have been called a touchdown. Period. That pic is after his toe touched. The replay clearly showed his toe hit the line before his knee hit.

12-11-2011, 08:58 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Euphoria They explained the toe hitting one blade on white grass during the game and replay after replay... but his left foot and left knee let alone his ass where all in bounds before his toe when out of bounds... A knee counts as a catch. Yes it does, but the replay showed his toe touched BEFORE his knee touched.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Yes but you can make a great catch with just your toes in bounds and your next complete foot or knee lands out of bounds its a catch. They make several of these highlights on ESPN weekly. Another case this was a TD is that you DO NOT have to have both feet in bounds you can have a foot and a knee in which case its a TD they got it wrong by over looking his knee.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	They explained the toe hitting one blade on white grass during the game and replay after replay... but his left foot and left knee let alone his ass where all in bounds before his toe when out of bounds... A knee counts as a catch.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	I dunno about this particular call, which I thought was a touchdown, but I said this elsewhere --I don't know who they were, but I think that this particular officiating crew today seemed really unprepared for the fast pace and envelope-pushing style of the modern pro football game...it was kinda like they were a bit "behind" the whole game, or couldn't handle it, including bad spots of the ball, phantom flags (picked up, "there is no foul on the play"), that weird false start on Drew, and on the field they seemed very confused about the TD play where the Titans QB held the ball over the pylon, etc. They just didn't seem like they could handle the pace and speed of the game. And kicking it to review is not going to overturn the call on the field unless it's totally conclusive, so there was a lot of stuff going on that was just kinda doubtful or seemed like they couldn't keep up with what was happening on the field. Calls on both sides, in fact.

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OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	As I saw it, his whole body was in first. Tip of right foot? Barely if at all. Knee down first. Whole body in. Keeping possession of ball the whole time.