Whistlegate: Titans accuse Saints of cheating - blowing whistle from sidelines

12-12-2011, 12:27 PM

I heard a whistle too, at the end of the game with their QB on his knees. Game Over

mike27 · 12-12-2011, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

FAIL

What about being robbed of 21 points today? The first TD was called back on Ticky Tack BS!
Jimmy Graham TD called back.
Where was the holding on the punt return?
Missed facemask on Sproles!

I'd have to agree--I think the real victory was with the officials, who seemed to have their pockets lined--even on the Jimmy Graham call, where his knee, and heel had definitely touched down, before his foot ever dropped a bit and the air kicked up a bit of chalk.

But Christ, that whole game, we were fighting against the officials. They played better against the Saints' than TN did.

mike27 · 12-12-2011, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by 95shakinpf

Maybe so...i missed it on the replay,tho.

HOWEVER.

Jimmy Grahams TD WAS A TD!! When did the rule change? Catch ball in endzone...2 feet touch...roll outa bounds...keep possession of ball throughout roll on ground.......THAT = A TOUCHDOWN EVERY TIME!!!!
Cmon seriosly,we see this same play wk in and wk out,throughout the league!
THAT WAS A TOUCHDOWN!!

Yep, seems like they missed the fact that a "heel" is part of a "foot," and when that heel hit, it was a touchdown. Anything after that, whatever chalk came up, was irrelevant.

I saw another strange call where they said "The IR system is down, so we'll have to accept the call on the field." I think it was the GB game.

Like I said, I got the distinct feeling the refs didn't want the Saints' to win, or were shaving points to buy some Christmas presents.

mike27 · 12-12-2011, 02:24 PM

All the calls seemed to happen on big plays too, for massive yards, or scoring plays, which tends to make one, generally suspicious.

And while I do say "Hey, that spot is bad, or that wasn't much contact," from time to time, usually upon review I am amazed at how close they got the spot, or I'll say "Yep, that was holding," or "Uh huh, he interfered." So I'm not a guy who gets pissed every time someone calls a penalty on the Saints' as they get it right amazingly and repeatedly.

But this game, was to say the least, very fishy. Even the reviews, every one of them went TN's way. I'm not clear on what the rule is, but on that "pass" (it was called upon review) the arm wasn't moving at all, and to me it looked more like the hit caused the movement forward. Is that called a pass? I felt like that movement was involuntary, but maybe it is called a pass anyway. Even the guys calling the game seemed to think the officiating was suspect.

neugey · 12-12-2011, 02:37 PM

Well we had to do something, since the refs weren't doing their job right!

Srgt. Hulka · 12-12-2011, 02:40 PM

I hear whistles from the stands in just about every game...and I'm frikkin hard of hearing! I even ask my wife occasionally about whistles I hear that's NOT at the end of a play, and she'll tell me it's just someone in the stands. My point is, that it's not uncommon.

Mardigras9 · 12-12-2011, 02:42 PM

The refs didn't give them a favorable spot on the QB sneak, which could have been argued by the Titans. I don't think they were out for the Saints specifically, I think they just sucked all the way around.

homerj07 · 12-12-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Can we all pool together to send the Titans a big fake whistle?

I will throw a couple of bucks in the pot for this. Pissy whiny crap. YOu lost get over it. If CJ2K had more than 23 yards on 11 carrys - you probably win the game.

Lots of bad calls ON BOTH SIDES & lots of bad calls throughout the league.

The refs need to learn to let the players actually PLAY THE FRIPPEN GAME.

I do not know about the SProles TD but according to the rule all parts of both feet need to be in & Graham's toes were on the line - not a TD.

SmashMouth · 12-12-2011, 03:47 PM

Or we could all send them thousands of toy kiddie whistles ... may be just as effective ... it'd be worth the 2 dollars it may cost us each ...
What's the Titans address again?

UK_WhoDat · 12-12-2011, 03:57 PM

Stunning.

Those Titans must have Daredevil like hearing to define location like that.

12-12-2011, 12:27 PM	#31
Threaded by Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375 Rating: (1 votes - 5.00 average) I heard a whistle too, at the end of the game with their QB on his knees. Game Over Rugby Saint II and AlaskaSaints like this.
Views: 24632

12-12-2011, 02:12 PM	#32
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Halo FAIL What about being robbed of 21 points today? The first TD was called back on Ticky Tack BS! Jimmy Graham TD called back. Where was the holding on the punt return? Missed facemask on Sproles! I'd have to agree--I think the real victory was with the officials, who seemed to have their pockets lined--even on the Jimmy Graham call, where his knee, and heel had definitely touched down, before his foot ever dropped a bit and the air kicked up a bit of chalk. But Christ, that whole game, we were fighting against the officials. They played better against the Saints' than TN did. Halo likes this.

12-12-2011, 02:18 PM	#33
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by 95shakinpf Maybe so...i missed it on the replay,tho. HOWEVER. Jimmy Grahams TD WAS A TD!! When did the rule change? Catch ball in endzone...2 feet touch...roll outa bounds...keep possession of ball throughout roll on ground.......THAT = A TOUCHDOWN EVERY TIME!!!! Cmon seriosly,we see this same play wk in and wk out,throughout the league! THAT WAS A TOUCHDOWN!! Yep, seems like they missed the fact that a "heel" is part of a "foot," and when that heel hit, it was a touchdown. Anything after that, whatever chalk came up, was irrelevant. I saw another strange call where they said "The IR system is down, so we'll have to accept the call on the field." I think it was the GB game. Like I said, I got the distinct feeling the refs didn't want the Saints' to win, or were shaving points to buy some Christmas presents. Halo likes this.

12-12-2011, 03:26 PM	#38
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Originally Posted by SmashMouth Can we all pool together to send the Titans a big fake whistle? I will throw a couple of bucks in the pot for this. Pissy whiny crap. YOu lost get over it. If CJ2K had more than 23 yards on 11 carrys - you probably win the game. Lots of bad calls ON BOTH SIDES & lots of bad calls throughout the league. The refs need to learn to let the players actually PLAY THE FRIPPEN GAME. I do not know about the SProles TD but according to the rule all parts of both feet need to be in & Graham's toes were on the line - not a TD. Halo likes this.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/38924-whistlegate-titans-accuse-saints-cheating-blowing-whistle-sidelines.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	12-11-2011 09:08 PM	1
Whistlegate: Titans accuse Saints of cheating - blowing whistle from sidelines	This thread	Refback	12-11-2011 09:02 PM	4
Whistlegate: Titans accuse Saints of cheating - blowing whistle from sidelines	This thread	Refback	12-11-2011 08:37 PM	25
Titans accusing US of cheating??????	This thread	Refback	12-11-2011 08:14 PM	11

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

12-12-2011, 02:24 PM	#34
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	All the calls seemed to happen on big plays too, for massive yards, or scoring plays, which tends to make one, generally suspicious. And while I do say "Hey, that spot is bad, or that wasn't much contact," from time to time, usually upon review I am amazed at how close they got the spot, or I'll say "Yep, that was holding," or "Uh huh, he interfered." So I'm not a guy who gets pissed every time someone calls a penalty on the Saints' as they get it right amazingly and repeatedly. But this game, was to say the least, very fishy. Even the reviews, every one of them went TN's way. I'm not clear on what the rule is, but on that "pass" (it was called upon review) the arm wasn't moving at all, and to me it looked more like the hit caused the movement forward. Is that called a pass? I felt like that movement was involuntary, but maybe it is called a pass anyway. Even the guys calling the game seemed to think the officiating was suspect.

12-12-2011, 02:37 PM	#35
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Well we had to do something, since the refs weren't doing their job right!

12-12-2011, 02:40 PM	#36
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	I hear whistles from the stands in just about every game...and I'm frikkin hard of hearing! I even ask my wife occasionally about whistles I hear that's NOT at the end of a play, and she'll tell me it's just someone in the stands. My point is, that it's not uncommon.

12-12-2011, 02:42 PM	#37
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	The refs didn't give them a favorable spot on the QB sneak, which could have been argued by the Titans. I don't think they were out for the Saints specifically, I think they just sucked all the way around.

12-12-2011, 03:47 PM	#39
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Or we could all send them thousands of toy kiddie whistles ... may be just as effective ... it'd be worth the 2 dollars it may cost us each ... What's the Titans address again?

12-12-2011, 03:57 PM	#40
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Stunning. Those Titans must have Daredevil like hearing to define location like that.