Harper Becoming a Thug?

Halo · 12-12-2011, 12:22 AM

I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it.

Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him.

Turbo Saint · 12-12-2011, 12:23 AM

definitely NOT intentional...no one is dirty on our team...c'mon now.

papz · 12-12-2011, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it.

Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him.

It wasn't intentional by any means. When they slowed it down, he grabbed his should pad, slipped to the helmet, and then the mask. Had he not held on, it would have been a touchdown. It was a necessary play and yet accidental play. It isn't the first time nor last that it happens on the field.

There is nothing about Harper that radiates thug. He's well spoken and doesn't prance around the field like he owns the place. A few of his "hits" were message senders... like "don't go after our players knees when blocking" . He's a leader on this team and protects his players. I wish we had more Roman Harpers on this team.

hitta · 12-12-2011, 12:43 AM

lol dirty or not, it stopped them from getting into the endzone on the play. 15 yard penalty was a good trade off.

iceshack149 · 12-12-2011, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game...

But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad...

Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late...

Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him...

I don't want either of those guys to leave! Harper is arguably the Saints best defender and he and Williams helped the Saints win their first Superbowl.

Crusader · 12-12-2011, 03:14 AM

Harper is playing on the line the whole time. Sometimes the line gets crossed but thats why I like him.

Belair57 · 12-12-2011, 03:48 AM

sorry, but I for one would be ok with a penalty a game of something that was totally uncalled for...... as long as it intimitated the other team...I like dirty, tough football, the kind that is played in gravel parking lots with no refs..if you know what im saying

Michigan_SF · 12-12-2011, 06:43 AM

Should be interesting to watch Harper vs Carolina later on.

95shakinpf · 12-12-2011, 06:58 AM

I think Harper was trying to stop the TD. He did. The facemask grab didnt look intentional but it happened and he was penalized for it. Sorry if you disagree but Harper helped win the game!
WHO DAT!!
And unless we acquire Wade Phillips or someone equal to him as Defensive Coordinator I wish for Greg Williams to stay right where he is.
IMHO

spkb25 · 12-12-2011, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game...

But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad...

Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late...

Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him...

Absolutely not. He saved a TD on that play, and if you go back and watch the replay he actually grabs the guys should pad area first, but as the player continues his hand hits the face mask.

12-12-2011, 12:22 AM	#11
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,602 Blog Entries: 45	I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it. Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him. Danno, spkb25, foreverfan and 1 others like this.

12-12-2011, 12:38 AM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Originally Posted by Halo I don't think this face mask was intentional. He threw his arm out to stop the receiver. The face mask was barely a penalty at that. His arm/hand grazed the mask and caught it. Not trying to make excuses for him. He has been more aggressive this season, but today was not all on him. It wasn't intentional by any means. When they slowed it down, he grabbed his should pad, slipped to the helmet, and then the mask. Had he not held on, it would have been a touchdown. It was a necessary play and yet accidental play. It isn't the first time nor last that it happens on the field. There is nothing about Harper that radiates thug. He's well spoken and doesn't prance around the field like he owns the place. A few of his "hits" were message senders... like "don't go after our players knees when blocking" . He's a leader on this team and protects his players. I wish we had more Roman Harpers on this team. Halo, iceshack149, Danno and 5 others like this.
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12-12-2011, 12:43 AM	#14
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	lol dirty or not, it stopped them from getting into the endzone on the play. 15 yard penalty was a good trade off. Halo, RockyMountainSaint and Turbo Saint like this.
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12-12-2011, 02:54 AM	#15
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by jeanpierre I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game... But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad... Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late... Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him... I don't want either of those guys to leave! Harper is arguably the Saints best defender and he and Williams helped the Saints win their first Superbowl. jnormand likes this.

12-12-2011, 03:14 AM	#16
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Harper is playing on the line the whole time. Sometimes the line gets crossed but thats why I like him. Halo and wstcstsaint like this.

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12-12-2011, 12:23 AM	#12
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	definitely NOT intentional...no one is dirty on our team...c'mon now.

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12-12-2011, 06:58 AM	#19
95shakinpf Registered Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Picayune,MS Posts: 91	I think Harper was trying to stop the TD. He did. The facemask grab didnt look intentional but it happened and he was penalized for it. Sorry if you disagree but Harper helped win the game! WHO DAT!! And unless we acquire Wade Phillips or someone equal to him as Defensive Coordinator I wish for Greg Williams to stay right where he is. IMHO iceshack149 likes this.

12-12-2011, 07:34 AM	#20
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Originally Posted by jeanpierre I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game... But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad... Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late... Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him... Absolutely not. He saved a TD on that play, and if you go back and watch the replay he actually grabs the guys should pad area first, but as the player continues his hand hits the face mask.

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