Harper Becoming a Thug?

gandhi1007 · 12-16-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Our d line is actually doing a great job or did you forget we just held cj2k to under 30 yards last week?

Shanle is actually having a good season as well. Can't believe ppl are still knocking him after the season he's having. He's been our best backer this season

Do you guys have TV in Ohio or are you just winging your comments? Our d-line gets NO pressure on the QB, hence we have to manufacture blitzing packages (see Harper's sack total, duh!!). And Shanle sucks.....no matter how you want to look at it. Only Jason David & Fred Thomas got abused more in a Saints uniform!

CantonLegend · 12-16-2011, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Do you guys have TV in Ohio or are you just winging your comments? Our d-line gets NO pressure on the QB, hence we have to manufacture blitzing packages (see Harper's sack total, duh!!). And Shanle sucks.....no matter how you want to look at it. Only Jason David & Fred Thomas got abused more in a Saints uniform!

Lol I actually watch all the games online and play it through my projector...it's about an 8 foot screen so I probably get to see a better game than you do

Our defensive line isn't being asked to rush the passer. Their job is to take on blockers. You shouldn't expect big numbers out of guys like that. Their job is not a glorified one but it's probably more important to the success of our defense than any other position

Shanle sucks? All that means to me is that you have a vendetta against him and nothing can possibly change Ur mind. Comparing our 5 year starter to a guy who was more of a liability than leaving a guy uncovered?

Ur hopeless

gandhi1007 · 12-16-2011, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

Lol I actually watch all the games online and play it through my projector...it's about an 8 foot screen so I probably get to see a better game than you do

Our defensive line isn't being asked to rush the passer. Their job is to take on blockers. You shouldn't expect big numbers out of guys like that. Their job is not a glorified one but it's probably more important to the success of our defense than any other position

Shanle sucks? All that means to me is that you have a vendetta against him and nothing can possibly change Ur mind. Comparing our 5 year starter to a guy who was more of a liability than leaving a guy uncovered?

Ur hopeless

1st.....our interior d-line has done the job they were brought in to do.....stop the run. Our DE's have not. They do not pressure QB's & they give up the edges. I'm at the games.....I watch it 1st hand. 2nd....I have no vendettas against any Saint, except former Saint Reggie Bush, because he's an a**hole. Shanle sucks, well.....because he sucks! The dude gets beat more than Whitney did when she was with Bobby. Use your projector to examine that game in & game out. It's obvious & often.

Danno · 12-16-2011, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Vilma has an excuse this year, coming off injury. That said, he needs to step it up if we're going to make a run at the Lombardi. Greer has looked solid, even stellar at times, this year even though I thought he would be a liability early on. I have to give him his kudos. Jenkins......I disagree. He has not impressed me this year like I thought he would. D-line sucks! Casillas over-pursues, but has a motor. Shanle......horrible. Dunbar has proven helpful.

Just my take.

No doubt Jenkins has looked lost at times, but he's also made some plays that have stuck out.

I know Vilma's hurt, but I'm wondering if its now the norm instead of the exception. Many said his knee problems would end up shortening his career. I hope we aren't seeing that come true right before our eyes.

TheDeuce · 12-17-2011, 11:38 AM

I love Harper, think he's a great player for us, but yes, he's developed a knack for taking cheap shots. Wish he'd cut out the penalties, but I do appreciate the tough guy mentality.

lumm0x · 12-17-2011, 11:00 PM

I have no problem with Harper. He has some liabilities in coverage but there aren't many strong safeties that don't. They are predominantly box players. Harper is a fine SS and I don't mind the physicality he brings to the table. That facemask last week was meaningless. The guy was gone for a TD and that saved the play for the moment. Half the distance from the 4 meant nothing. Grab whatever you can I say.

12-16-2011, 06:55 PM	#1
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Our d line is actually doing a great job or did you forget we just held cj2k to under 30 yards last week? Shanle is actually having a good season as well. Can't believe ppl are still knocking him after the season he's having. He's been our best backer this season Do you guys have TV in Ohio or are you just winging your comments? Our d-line gets NO pressure on the QB, hence we have to manufacture blitzing packages (see Harper's sack total, duh!!). And Shanle sucks.....no matter how you want to look at it. Only Jason David & Fred Thomas got abused more in a Saints uniform! iceshack149 likes this.

12-16-2011, 07:12 PM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Do you guys have TV in Ohio or are you just winging your comments? Our d-line gets NO pressure on the QB, hence we have to manufacture blitzing packages (see Harper's sack total, duh!!). And Shanle sucks.....no matter how you want to look at it. Only Jason David & Fred Thomas got abused more in a Saints uniform! Lol I actually watch all the games online and play it through my projector...it's about an 8 foot screen so I probably get to see a better game than you do Our defensive line isn't being asked to rush the passer. Their job is to take on blockers. You shouldn't expect big numbers out of guys like that. Their job is not a glorified one but it's probably more important to the success of our defense than any other position Shanle sucks? All that means to me is that you have a vendetta against him and nothing can possibly change Ur mind. Comparing our 5 year starter to a guy who was more of a liability than leaving a guy uncovered? Ur hopeless
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12-16-2011, 07:46 PM	#3
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by CantonLegend Lol I actually watch all the games online and play it through my projector...it's about an 8 foot screen so I probably get to see a better game than you do Our defensive line isn't being asked to rush the passer. Their job is to take on blockers. You shouldn't expect big numbers out of guys like that. Their job is not a glorified one but it's probably more important to the success of our defense than any other position Shanle sucks? All that means to me is that you have a vendetta against him and nothing can possibly change Ur mind. Comparing our 5 year starter to a guy who was more of a liability than leaving a guy uncovered? Ur hopeless 1st.....our interior d-line has done the job they were brought in to do.....stop the run. Our DE's have not. They do not pressure QB's & they give up the edges. I'm at the games.....I watch it 1st hand. 2nd....I have no vendettas against any Saint, except former Saint Reggie Bush, because he's an a**hole. Shanle sucks, well.....because he sucks! The dude gets beat more than Whitney did when she was with Bobby. Use your projector to examine that game in & game out. It's obvious & often.

12-16-2011, 06:50 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Vilma has an excuse this year, coming off injury. That said, he needs to step it up if we're going to make a run at the Lombardi. Greer has looked solid, even stellar at times, this year even though I thought he would be a liability early on. I have to give him his kudos. Jenkins......I disagree. He has not impressed me this year like I thought he would. D-line sucks! Casillas over-pursues, but has a motor. Shanle......horrible. Dunbar has proven helpful. Just my take. No doubt Jenkins has looked lost at times, but he's also made some plays that have stuck out. I know Vilma's hurt, but I'm wondering if its now the norm instead of the exception. Many said his knee problems would end up shortening his career. I hope we aren't seeing that come true right before our eyes.

12-17-2011, 11:38 AM	#5
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	I love Harper, think he's a great player for us, but yes, he's developed a knack for taking cheap shots. Wish he'd cut out the penalties, but I do appreciate the tough guy mentality.
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12-17-2011, 11:00 PM	#6
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	I have no problem with Harper. He has some liabilities in coverage but there aren't many strong safeties that don't. They are predominantly box players. Harper is a fine SS and I don't mind the physicality he brings to the table. That facemask last week was meaningless. The guy was gone for a TD and that saved the play for the moment. Half the distance from the 4 meant nothing. Grab whatever you can I say.

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