Harper Becoming a Thug?

jeanpierre · 12-11-2011, 09:47 PM

I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game...

But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad...

Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late...

Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him...

saintfan · 12-11-2011, 09:52 PM

Bust 'em up Harper. Our D needs all the fire it can get. If Suh is available I'd sign him too. Seriously.

halloween 65 · 12-11-2011, 09:53 PM

If he does we want have anybody that will get a qb. sack or tackle anyone. I like Harper.

JoanieNTX · 12-11-2011, 09:57 PM

I love Harper! We need a bad boy! Love da fire!!!

RockyMountainSaint · 12-11-2011, 10:04 PM

To answer the question in your thread title. NO!

You could have followed up by saying: "I HATE ROMAN HARPER."

Had you done that, you would have saved yourself some typing.

Every subsequent keystroke says the same thing............

breesfan27 · 12-11-2011, 10:44 PM

I don't think he's a thug. Was the facemask wrong? Yes. Was it justified? Hell yes! The way things were going for them, they would have gotten flagged anyway, might as well make it worth while. Just my opinion though.

mike27 · 12-12-2011, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

I don't think he's a thug. Was the facemask wrong? Yes. Was it justified? Hell yes! The way things were going for them, they would have gotten flagged anyway, might as well make it worth while. Just my opinion though.

I actually think that last hit was incidental--he was just running so desperately, got there just before the runner, and that was all that he could get ahold of--and for the most part I think he plays a clean game.

People complain a lot about Williams running blitzs, but I think a big part of it is wanting to ring the bell of the quarterback once or twice. There is nothing like putting that thought of being hit into the quarterback's head to get him to throw passes more quickly, and make mistakes. It's one of the intangibles one gets from Blitzing, in addition to the occasional sacks, and often leads to fumbles and interceptions, to state the obvious.

Remember how all the pundits whined all year long about the D being so bad--but they got the job done when it counted, and after all the job isn't to keep the other team to 0, but to keep them from scoring more than your team. I mean, it'd be nice, but in the NFL, it is pretty impractical to think you can get zeroes.

Halo · 12-11-2011, 10:50 PM

He's starting to raise PITBULLS!

jnormand · 12-11-2011, 11:03 PM

I like Harper. I have noticed his attitude as of late. Even in the Detroit game. I think he's is trying to be a little more aggressive. I actually didn't think the facemask looked intentional. I'm not against him being a jerk, as long as it doesn't cost us games.

AlaskaSaints · 12-11-2011, 11:15 PM

We are SO beatable on long passes. He's probably as frustrated as most, but it wasn't intentional.

Alaska still in TN

12-11-2011, 09:47 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Harper Becoming a Thug? I've posted my dislike for Harper as a Defensive Back on this site; have had my disagreements with some about his game... But the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties he's drawn or becoming more regular than defensive stops for this squad... Frankly, I like a "tough" defense - but the kind that Rickey Jackson and Vaughan Johnson led, not this thuggish brand that Harper has shown as of late... Maybe if/when Greg Williams leaves after this season, he can take "Toast" with him... Mr Magic likes this.

12-11-2011, 09:52 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Bust 'em up Harper. Our D needs all the fire it can get. If Suh is available I'd sign him too. Seriously. Saint_LB, SaintPauly, pherein and 2 others like this.

12-11-2011, 09:57 PM	#4
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	I love Harper! We need a bad boy! Love da fire!!! iceshack149 likes this.

12-11-2011, 10:04 PM	#5
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	To answer the question in your thread title. NO! You could have followed up by saying: "I HATE ROMAN HARPER." Had you done that, you would have saved yourself some typing. Every subsequent keystroke says the same thing............ Danno and jlouhill like this.

12-11-2011, 10:44 PM	#6
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	I don't think he's a thug. Was the facemask wrong? Yes. Was it justified? Hell yes! The way things were going for them, they would have gotten flagged anyway, might as well make it worth while. Just my opinion though. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

12-11-2011, 09:53 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	If he does we want have anybody that will get a qb. sack or tackle anyone. I like Harper.

12-12-2011, 01:29 PM	#7
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by breesfan27 I don't think he's a thug. Was the facemask wrong? Yes. Was it justified? Hell yes! The way things were going for them, they would have gotten flagged anyway, might as well make it worth while. Just my opinion though. I actually think that last hit was incidental--he was just running so desperately, got there just before the runner, and that was all that he could get ahold of--and for the most part I think he plays a clean game. People complain a lot about Williams running blitzs, but I think a big part of it is wanting to ring the bell of the quarterback once or twice. There is nothing like putting that thought of being hit into the quarterback's head to get him to throw passes more quickly, and make mistakes. It's one of the intangibles one gets from Blitzing, in addition to the occasional sacks, and often leads to fumbles and interceptions, to state the obvious. Remember how all the pundits whined all year long about the D being so bad--but they got the job done when it counted, and after all the job isn't to keep the other team to 0, but to keep them from scoring more than your team. I mean, it'd be nice, but in the NFL, it is pretty impractical to think you can get zeroes.

12-11-2011, 10:50 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	He's starting to raise PITBULLS! saintfan, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-11-2011, 11:03 PM	#9
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,737	I like Harper. I have noticed his attitude as of late. Even in the Detroit game. I think he's is trying to be a little more aggressive. I actually didn't think the facemask looked intentional. I'm not against him being a jerk, as long as it doesn't cost us games. Halo and Ashley like this.

12-11-2011, 11:15 PM	#10
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	We are SO beatable on long passes. He's probably as frustrated as most, but it wasn't intentional. Alaska still in TN Halo likes this.

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