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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; TOTAL - Brees: 417-583 (71.5%), 4780 yds, 37 td, 11 int, 109.1 rating - Brady: 351-530 (66.2%), 4593 yds, 35 td, 11 int, 106.7 rating - Rodgers: 322-473 (68.1%), 4360 yds, 40 td, 6 int, 120.1 rating Splits by Distance ...

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Old 12-20-2011, 12:23 AM   #1
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Brees, Brady, and Rogers QB strength and numbers

TOTAL
- Brees: 417-583 (71.5%), 4780 yds, 37 td, 11 int, 109.1 rating
- Brady: 351-530 (66.2%), 4593 yds, 35 td, 11 int, 106.7 rating
- Rodgers: 322-473 (68.1%), 4360 yds, 40 td, 6 int, 120.1 rating

Splits by Distance Thrown

*Pass thrown behind the line of scrimmage
- Brees: 87-106 (82.1%), 464 yds, 4 td, 1 int, 93.6 rating
- Brady: 43-57 (75.4%), 356 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 89.5 rating
- Rodgers: 69-84 (82.1%), 461 yds, 2 td, 0 int, 97.5 rating

*Pass thrown 1-10 yds
- Brees: 201-271 (74.2%), 1777 yds, 14 td, 4 int, 102.3 rating
- Brady: 199-271 (73.4%), 1986 yds, 14 td, 3 int, 106.4 rating
- Rodgers: 142-192 (74.0%), 1308 yds, 14 td, 4 int, 107.7 rating

*Pass thrown 11-20 yds
- Brees: 74-119 (62.2%), 1306 yds, 3 td, 4 int, 94.0 rating
- Brady: 73-127 (57.5%), 1508 yds, 13 td, 7 int, 110.6 rating
- Rodgers: 67-115 (58.3%), 1289 yds, 11 td, 1 int, 125.6 rating

*Pass thrown 21-30 yds
- Brees: 15-32 (46.9%), 462 yds, 6 td, 2 int, 106.8 rating
- Brady: 11-26 (42.3%), 370 yds, 5 td, 0 int, 129.0 rating
- Rodgers: 17-31 (54.8%), 596 yds, 7 td, 1 int, 126.0 rating

*Pass thrown 31-40 yds
- Brees: 7-12 (58.3%), 280 yds, 4 td, 0 int, 142.4 rating
- Brady: 0-7 (0.0%), 0 yds, 0 td, 0 int, 39.6 rating
- Rodgers: 7-10 (70.0%), 308 yds, 3 td, 0 int, 152.1 rating

*Pass thrown 41+ yds
- Brees: 1-3 (33.3%), 79 yds, 1 td, 0 int, 121.5 rating
- Brady: 1-6 (16.7%), 46 yds, 0 td, 0 int, 59.0 rating
- Rodgers: 3-6 (50.0%), 163 yds, 2 td, 0 int, 135.4 rating

Breaking this down further....

% of pass attempts of 10 or fewer yards (short routes)
- Brees: 64.7%
- Brady: 61.9%
- Rodgers: 58.4%

% of pass attempts of 11-20 yards (intermediate routes)
- Brees: 20.4%
- Brady: 23.9%
- Rodgers: 24.3%

% of pass attempts of 21+ yards (deep routes)
- Brees: 8.1%
- Brady: 7.4%
- Rodgers: 9.9%

*Rodgers is 27-47 (57.4%) on deep routes this year. That's an amazing figure.

*Brees throws a higher percentage of short passes compared with Brady and Rodgers.

*Brady's deep ball numbers are pretty poor. Just 12-39 (30.8%).

EDIT: For some reason, espn's splits are not updated for yesterday's game. The totals are, but not the splits. That's kind of annoying.

This kind of proves we need a short game with Rogers. The Dome might not effect him at all, and allowing Rogers the long ball with jenkins could end our season. Brees strength is a short game so a blizzard in GB might be better.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:34 AM   #2
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Phere-i-nuff Pherein.

Do you have splits of pass defence also. That would give another perspective of
....we need a short game with Rodgers. ..... allowing Rodgers the long ball with jenkins could end our season. Brees strength is a short game so a blizzard in GB might be better.....
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Phere-i-nuff Pherein.

Do you have splits of pass defence also. That would give another perspective of
lol, Im not trying to feed another prospective. What kind of splits are you thinking about UK? You mean, what pass defenses these 3 QB's have faced ?

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lol, Im not trying to feed another prospective. What kind of splits are you thinking about UK? You mean, what pass defenses these 3 QB's have faced ?
That's the one.

But more specifically, the most successful offense against NOS, GBP, NEP defenses. So in a NOS/GBP rematch, maybe the Saints should go X and not Y.

Look. If I knew what I was talking about, I would tell you. But I don't
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:57 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat View Post
That's the one.

But more specifically, the most successful offense against NOS, GBP, NEP defenses. So in a NOS/GBP rematch, maybe the Saints should go X and not Y.

Look. If I knew what I was talking about, I would tell you. But I don't
LOL, Ill look up strength of pass defense, and strength of defensive line, because I believe they go hand in hand. I mean, if a QB is pressured to throw, then the secondary looks better than it really is. Might be interesting to add here.
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Kick Rogers square in the nuts & he will cry like Nancy Kerrigan!! (or Tim Tebow - HAH!!)
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Originally Posted by pherein View Post
*Pass thrown 31-40 yds
- Brees: 7-12 (58.3%), 280 yds, 4 td, 0 int, 142.4 rating
- Brady: 0-7 (0.0%), 0 yds, 0 td, 0 int, 39.6 rating
- Rodgers: 7-10 (70.0%), 308 yds, 3 td, 0 int, 152.1 rating

*Pass thrown 41+ yds
- Brees: 1-3 (33.3%), 79 yds, 1 td, 0 int, 121.5 rating
- Brady: 1-6 (16.7%), 46 yds, 0 td, 0 int, 59.0 rating
- Rodgers: 3-6 (50.0%), 163 yds, 2 td, 0 int, 135.4 rating
Glad to see that. He and Rivers seem like brats.

Good work, pherein.
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How does Drews laser pin point accuracy figure in this?
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:33 AM   #9
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How does Drews laser pin point accuracy figure in this?
Well if you look at the %'s of competitions in every category of distance Brees
dominates every one with a Total of 71.5% . That is truly astounding if you consider he has thrown 50 more passes than Rodger and 110 more than Brady. That is absolute proof of his amazing accuracy, because Rodgers and Brady don't suck.

TOTAL
- Brees: 417-583 (71.5%), 4780 yds, 37 td, 11 int, 109.1 rating
- Brady: 351-530 (66.2%), 4593 yds, 35 td, 11 int, 106.7 rating
- Rodgers: 322-473 (68.1%), 4360 yds, 40 td, 6 int, 120.1 rating

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Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

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The stats don't show that Brees stiff arms D lineman regularly and moves around the pocket keeping plays alive, his pocket presence is insane and he has eyes in the back of his head, call it biased but it's the truth
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