Colston will not take a hometown discount from the Saints

Tobias-Reiper · 12-28-2011, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Brees never had a 4,000yd passing season before he got to the Saints, you guys mean to tell me its only Brees making the WRs look good and not the other way around??? We can't at all afford to loose Colston. He has teriffic hands and are a very reliable target. And don't forget he is the ultimate professional, you never gonna hear about him in a situation not relating to something on the field.

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saintfan · 12-28-2011, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Nothing against Colston, he's quality, but a rookie will serve us equally well and asking someone like Meachem or Henderson to step up and finally seeing what Arrington or Roby may have to offer is not out of the question.

Nothing against Meach, Henderson, Arrington, or Roby, but I couldn't disagree with you more.

SmashMouth · 12-28-2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by thebdj

I'm not sure that paying Brees is going to leave us as a penniless franchise! It's always the way with a winning team. Everyone thinks that their contribution was big enough to warrant a massive payday and if that means they can get their payday elsewhere, even for a truly awful franchise, then they will likely take it.

I hate to put the kaibosh on Colston being at New Orleans but I am telling you right now, he is finished unless he accepts a far more structured contract. However there are a number of teams who need a WR option just like Colston and would be happy to pay the sort of money he is after. I can see him landing in Minnesota or somewhere like that. God forbid he goes to Carolina or I am going to cry. A lot!

The truth is as well, that whilst you have someone like Drew Brees, you can put any decent route runner with half decent hands out on the field and Brees will turn them into a star. Nothing against Colston, he's quality, but a rookie will serve us equally well and asking someone like Meachem or Henderson to step up and finally seeing what Arrington or Roby may have to offer is not out of the question.

Well said...

papz · 12-28-2011, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by thebdj

I'm not sure that paying Brees is going to leave us as a penniless franchise! It's always the way with a winning team. Everyone thinks that their contribution was big enough to warrant a massive payday and if that means they can get their payday elsewhere, even for a truly awful franchise, then they will likely take it.

I hate to put the kaibosh on Colston being at New Orleans but I am telling you right now, he is finished unless he accepts a far more structured contract. However there are a number of teams who need a WR option just like Colston and would be happy to pay the sort of money he is after. I can see him landing in Minnesota or somewhere like that. God forbid he goes to Carolina or I am going to cry. A lot!

The truth is as well, that whilst you have someone like Drew Brees, you can put any decent route runner with half decent hands out on the field and Brees will turn them into a star. Nothing against Colston, he's quality, but a rookie will serve us equally well and asking someone like Meachem or Henderson to step up and finally seeing what Arrington or Roby may have to offer is not out of the question.

While I agree with most of what you are saying, not many decent route runners with half decent hands can take on the double coverage, make the catch, and take the types of hits Drew often puts him in position to take. He's certainly replaceable, just not as easy as it may seem. I do feel Meachem is capable and ready for an expanded role.

I'm also curious of what your idea of a more structured contract is. 10 million is just speculation and may be a bit much since Brees and Nicks are first in the pecking order... but would you consider 7 or 8 million a year with a little moe up front more structured?

Does any one else feel Drew would be willing to take less to ensure Colston remains a Saint? Honestly I feel we keep all three. At worst, we franchise Nicks or Colston, extend the other two, and worry about the last one the year after. I wouldn't be shocked to see either Smith or Vilma becoming cap casualties freeing up the money to get everyone done either.

RaginCajun83 · 12-28-2011, 09:12 PM

I'd have no problem loosing Will Smith to keep Colston around

QBREES9 · 12-28-2011, 10:31 PM

This is going to be one tough off season.

The Dude · 12-29-2011, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Brees never had a 4,000yd passing season before he got to the Saints, you guys mean to tell me its only Brees making the WRs look good and not the other way around??? We can't at all afford to loose Colston. He has teriffic hands and are a very reliable target. And don't forget he is the ultimate professional, you never gonna hear about him in a situation not relating to something on the field.

I think Sean Payton has more to do with the continued success of Brees than our wide receivers. And vice versa. That being said now that Lance is locked up Colston is the one receiver that we better get locked up. I could not care less if Meatchump walks.

MatthewT · 12-29-2011, 04:20 AM

This upcoming off season is probably going to be brutal. Colston is good as gone at this point. Henderson is probably right behind him. Will Smith and Jon Vilma, probably gone too. The Saints have ran their course and the off season isn't going to be kind to them. We should all hope for another Super Bowl win, because after this season it's not happening. Brees will still be around with his 25 million dollar per year contract, and lots of rookies.

Cory9289 · 12-29-2011, 04:26 AM

It's not just that, when you play with the Saints as a WR you're forfeiting personal fame. The ball is spread so thin (with really only Graham getting the fame) that you just take what you get. Pay the guy or he'll go somewhere else and play big. If Reggie can do it, I'm sure Colston can play big elsewhere.

12-28-2011, 06:05 PM	#41
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by Crusader Brees never had a 4,000yd passing season before he got to the Saints, you guys mean to tell me its only Brees making the WRs look good and not the other way around??? We can't at all afford to loose Colston. He has teriffic hands and are a very reliable target. And don't forget he is the ultimate professional, you never gonna hear about him in a situation not relating to something on the field. In one word, Schottenheimer

12-28-2011, 06:06 PM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by thebdj Nothing against Colston, he's quality, but a rookie will serve us equally well and asking someone like Meachem or Henderson to step up and finally seeing what Arrington or Roby may have to offer is not out of the question. Nothing against Meach, Henderson, Arrington, or Roby, but I couldn't disagree with you more.

12-28-2011, 06:33 PM	#43
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by thebdj I'm not sure that paying Brees is going to leave us as a penniless franchise! It's always the way with a winning team. Everyone thinks that their contribution was big enough to warrant a massive payday and if that means they can get their payday elsewhere, even for a truly awful franchise, then they will likely take it. I hate to put the kaibosh on Colston being at New Orleans but I am telling you right now, he is finished unless he accepts a far more structured contract. However there are a number of teams who need a WR option just like Colston and would be happy to pay the sort of money he is after. I can see him landing in Minnesota or somewhere like that. God forbid he goes to Carolina or I am going to cry. A lot! The truth is as well, that whilst you have someone like Drew Brees, you can put any decent route runner with half decent hands out on the field and Brees will turn them into a star. Nothing against Colston, he's quality, but a rookie will serve us equally well and asking someone like Meachem or Henderson to step up and finally seeing what Arrington or Roby may have to offer is not out of the question. Well said...

12-28-2011, 07:20 PM	#44
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Originally Posted by thebdj I'm not sure that paying Brees is going to leave us as a penniless franchise! It's always the way with a winning team. Everyone thinks that their contribution was big enough to warrant a massive payday and if that means they can get their payday elsewhere, even for a truly awful franchise, then they will likely take it. I hate to put the kaibosh on Colston being at New Orleans but I am telling you right now, he is finished unless he accepts a far more structured contract. However there are a number of teams who need a WR option just like Colston and would be happy to pay the sort of money he is after. I can see him landing in Minnesota or somewhere like that. God forbid he goes to Carolina or I am going to cry. A lot! The truth is as well, that whilst you have someone like Drew Brees, you can put any decent route runner with half decent hands out on the field and Brees will turn them into a star. Nothing against Colston, he's quality, but a rookie will serve us equally well and asking someone like Meachem or Henderson to step up and finally seeing what Arrington or Roby may have to offer is not out of the question. While I agree with most of what you are saying, not many decent route runners with half decent hands can take on the double coverage, make the catch, and take the types of hits Drew often puts him in position to take. He's certainly replaceable, just not as easy as it may seem. I do feel Meachem is capable and ready for an expanded role. I'm also curious of what your idea of a more structured contract is. 10 million is just speculation and may be a bit much since Brees and Nicks are first in the pecking order... but would you consider 7 or 8 million a year with a little moe up front more structured? Does any one else feel Drew would be willing to take less to ensure Colston remains a Saint? Honestly I feel we keep all three. At worst, we franchise Nicks or Colston, extend the other two, and worry about the last one the year after. I wouldn't be shocked to see either Smith or Vilma becoming cap casualties freeing up the money to get everyone done either.
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12-29-2011, 01:44 AM	#47
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Originally Posted by Crusader Brees never had a 4,000yd passing season before he got to the Saints, you guys mean to tell me its only Brees making the WRs look good and not the other way around??? We can't at all afford to loose Colston. He has teriffic hands and are a very reliable target. And don't forget he is the ultimate professional, you never gonna hear about him in a situation not relating to something on the field. I think Sean Payton has more to do with the continued success of Brees than our wide receivers. And vice versa. That being said now that Lance is locked up Colston is the one receiver that we better get locked up. I could not care less if Meatchump walks.
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12-28-2011, 09:12 PM	#45
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	I'd have no problem loosing Will Smith to keep Colston around

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	This upcoming off season is probably going to be brutal. Colston is good as gone at this point. Henderson is probably right behind him. Will Smith and Jon Vilma, probably gone too. The Saints have ran their course and the off season isn't going to be kind to them. We should all hope for another Super Bowl win, because after this season it's not happening. Brees will still be around with his 25 million dollar per year contract, and lots of rookies.

12-29-2011, 04:26 AM	#49
Cory9289 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 275	It's not just that, when you play with the Saints as a WR you're forfeiting personal fame. The ball is spread so thin (with really only Graham getting the fame) that you just take what you get. Pay the guy or he'll go somewhere else and play big. If Reggie can do it, I'm sure Colston can play big elsewhere.
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