Trotter to be released?

deadflatbird · 03-13-2004, 09:57 AM

what people fail to realize is its just not the money thing Peyton got... its the power. If he doesn\'t like the way the team is headed and players coming in he doesn\'t have to do anything but keep collecting his check. If he does... then he can re-negociate and help bring those players to the colts.

pakowitz · 03-13-2004, 11:09 AM

the only way we would be able to trade up for eli is if we traded our first and 2 seconds and most likely our first next year.... there is no way in hell that the chargers are gonna want to drop from first in the draft a full 17 spots, and the thought of adding brooks to that deal will not happen, we would take a super cap hit b/c of brooks\' signing bonus, so if u want eli, u better cut his picture out of the news paper or find his trading card b/c he aint coming to the saints to be a qb

BrooksMustGo · 03-16-2004, 12:01 AM

there is no way in hell that the chargers are gonna want to drop from first in the draft a full 17 spots

With Boston gone, the Chargers can\'t afford to take Eli. They need a receiver or 2 in the worst way. Nobody wants to trade up at the price the Chargers will be asking.

Now we\'re talking the Raiders or the Cardinals, just 16 or 15 spots respectively.

deadflatbird · 03-16-2004, 09:19 AM

This is the Ricky WIlliams trade all over again. History does repeat itself I guess. You\'ll have to trade Brooks and package all the picks this year and perhaps a one or two next year and start Manning this year. Manning will sale tickets and give us an 8-8 season again as a learning year. We still will be hurting at MLB and CB.

[Edited on 16/3/2004 by deadflatbird]

26DEUCE26 · 03-16-2004, 06:31 PM

I am sick of all of this trading up talk. I think Eli is going to be a great player, but there is no way we(especially Haslett) can afford to be competitive by trading up. If they don\'t make the playoffs this year Haslett will be out of a job. Right now we are only a MLB & CB away from being a playoff team. There is no way the Saints trade up for Eli.

deadflatbird · 03-16-2004, 06:48 PM

MLB, CB and 10 wins.

BrooksMustGo · 03-16-2004, 09:12 PM

Manning will sale tickets and give us an 8-8 season again as a learning year. We still will be hurting at MLB and CB

Let me see if I have this straight.
1. We have made no meaningful moves for a CB or a LB in free agency.
2. If we do have new CB or LB\'s they will pretty much have to be drafted (barring a surprise June 1 cut, in which case, we\'d still have to actually make a move on a released player)
3. We keep Brooks who gets us to 8-8.
4. We could trade and get Eli, who gets us to 8-8.

So why not deal Brooks and live with Eli\'s 8-8 next year and then have 10-6 or better with Eli the year after?

deadflatbird · 03-16-2004, 09:20 PM

Because the NFL is built on WIN NOW... not 3-4-5 years from now.

BrooksMustGo · 03-16-2004, 09:43 PM

Because the NFL is built on WIN NOW... not 3-4-5 years from now.

This I understand.
What I don\'t understand is why retain Brooks when he doesn\'t WIN NOW? Why keep Brooks when he won\'t WIN LATER either?

Why does it not make sense to draft ELI when he is at least going to WIN LATER?

deadflatbird · 03-16-2004, 09:45 PM

\"...because Brooks gives us the best oppitunity to win NOW.\"

03-13-2004, 09:57 AM	#11
deadflatbird 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 255	Trotter to be released? what people fail to realize is its just not the money thing Peyton got... its the power. If he doesn\'t like the way the team is headed and players coming in he doesn\'t have to do anything but keep collecting his check. If he does... then he can re-negociate and help bring those players to the colts.

03-13-2004, 11:09 AM	#12
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Trotter to be released? the only way we would be able to trade up for eli is if we traded our first and 2 seconds and most likely our first next year.... there is no way in hell that the chargers are gonna want to drop from first in the draft a full 17 spots, and the thought of adding brooks to that deal will not happen, we would take a super cap hit b/c of brooks\' signing bonus, so if u want eli, u better cut his picture out of the news paper or find his trading card b/c he aint coming to the saints to be a qb
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03-16-2004, 12:01 AM	#13
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Trotter to be released? there is no way in hell that the chargers are gonna want to drop from first in the draft a full 17 spots With Boston gone, the Chargers can\'t afford to take Eli. They need a receiver or 2 in the worst way. Nobody wants to trade up at the price the Chargers will be asking. Now we\'re talking the Raiders or the Cardinals, just 16 or 15 spots respectively.

03-16-2004, 09:19 AM	#14
deadflatbird 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 255	Trotter to be released? This is the Ricky WIlliams trade all over again. History does repeat itself I guess. You\'ll have to trade Brooks and package all the picks this year and perhaps a one or two next year and start Manning this year. Manning will sale tickets and give us an 8-8 season again as a learning year. We still will be hurting at MLB and CB. [Edited on 16/3/2004 by deadflatbird]

03-16-2004, 06:31 PM	#15
26DEUCE26 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 116	Trotter to be released? I am sick of all of this trading up talk. I think Eli is going to be a great player, but there is no way we(especially Haslett) can afford to be competitive by trading up. If they don\'t make the playoffs this year Haslett will be out of a job. Right now we are only a MLB & CB away from being a playoff team. There is no way the Saints trade up for Eli.
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03-16-2004, 06:48 PM	#16
deadflatbird 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 255	Trotter to be released? MLB, CB and 10 wins.

03-16-2004, 09:12 PM	#17
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Trotter to be released? Manning will sale tickets and give us an 8-8 season again as a learning year. We still will be hurting at MLB and CB Let me see if I have this straight. 1. We have made no meaningful moves for a CB or a LB in free agency. 2. If we do have new CB or LB\'s they will pretty much have to be drafted (barring a surprise June 1 cut, in which case, we\'d still have to actually make a move on a released player) 3. We keep Brooks who gets us to 8-8. 4. We could trade and get Eli, who gets us to 8-8. So why not deal Brooks and live with Eli\'s 8-8 next year and then have 10-6 or better with Eli the year after?
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03-16-2004, 09:20 PM	#18
deadflatbird 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 255	Trotter to be released? Because the NFL is built on WIN NOW... not 3-4-5 years from now.

03-16-2004, 09:43 PM	#19
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Trotter to be released? Because the NFL is built on WIN NOW... not 3-4-5 years from now. This I understand. What I don\'t understand is why retain Brooks when he doesn\'t WIN NOW? Why keep Brooks when he won\'t WIN LATER either? Why does it not make sense to draft ELI when he is at least going to WIN LATER?

03-16-2004, 09:45 PM	#20
deadflatbird 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 255	Trotter to be released? \"...because Brooks gives us the best oppitunity to win NOW.\"