It's time for the pundits to quit calling Ryan an elite QB

saintfan · 01-12-2012, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by jokeray

I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something?

Seriously. John Clayton is the guiltiest of the bunch. Pat Yasinkas (ESPN South Blog) is another offender. ESPN in general has included him in the 'elite' category from pretty much half-way through his rookie season.

We are all aware of why they do it. The league wants elite QBs, but it's offensive to just about anybody who knows much of anything about football to call Matt "Skid Britches" Ryan elite when the likes of Brady, Manning (either one really) and Drew are playing.

jokeray · 01-12-2012, 03:56 PM

Ah, well there you have it. I can't stand ESPN, and haven't watched their NFL coverage in a few years.

RaginCajun83 · 01-12-2012, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by jokeray

Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?

He'll have to keep waiting cause it sure isn't happening this weekend

Tobias-Reiper · 01-12-2012, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by jokeray

Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?

But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.

lumm0x · 01-12-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.

Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

saintfan · 01-12-2012, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

Tobias-Reiper · 01-12-2012, 06:00 PM

On the contrary, I think the talking head should continue to call Matty Melt elite. It makes for a much more satisfying Clown meltdown at the end of the season.

Danno · 01-12-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

I look at it this way...

If you put Drew on that same exact team, they win big and damn sure don't choke in the clutch.

That offense is close to being as talented as ours, the difference is talent and leadership at QB.

We got it, they don't.

01-12-2012, 03:34 PM	#41
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by jokeray I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something? Seriously. John Clayton is the guiltiest of the bunch. Pat Yasinkas (ESPN South Blog) is another offender. ESPN in general has included him in the 'elite' category from pretty much half-way through his rookie season. We are all aware of why they do it. The league wants elite QBs, but it's offensive to just about anybody who knows much of anything about football to call Matt "Skid Britches" Ryan elite when the likes of Brady, Manning (either one really) and Drew are playing.

01-12-2012, 03:56 PM	#42
jokeray Jackwagon! Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 211	Ah, well there you have it. I can't stand ESPN, and haven't watched their NFL coverage in a few years.
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01-12-2012, 04:13 PM	#43
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Originally Posted by jokeray Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game? He'll have to keep waiting cause it sure isn't happening this weekend SaintsBro and jokeray like this.

01-12-2012, 04:46 PM	#44
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by jokeray Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game? But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.

01-12-2012, 05:22 PM	#45
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have. Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

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01-12-2012, 05:49 PM	#46
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by lumm0x Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker. You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face? Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow. Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

01-12-2012, 06:00 PM	#47
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	On the contrary, I think the talking head should continue to call Matty Melt elite. It makes for a much more satisfying Clown meltdown at the end of the season.

01-12-2012, 07:17 PM	#48
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by saintfan You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face? Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow. Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again... I look at it this way... If you put Drew on that same exact team, they win big and damn sure don't choke in the clutch. That offense is close to being as talented as ours, the difference is talent and leadership at QB. We got it, they don't. saintfan and Tobias-Reiper like this.

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