It's time for the pundits to quit calling Ryan an elite QB

lumm0x · 01-12-2012, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.

Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

saintfan · 01-12-2012, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

Danno · 01-12-2012, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

I look at it this way...

If you put Drew on that same exact team, they win big and damn sure don't choke in the clutch.

That offense is close to being as talented as ours, the difference is talent and leadership at QB.

We got it, they don't.

01-12-2012, 04:49 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by lumm0x Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker. You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face? Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow. Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

01-12-2012, 06:17 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by saintfan You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face? Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow. Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again... I look at it this way... If you put Drew on that same exact team, they win big and damn sure don't choke in the clutch. That offense is close to being as talented as ours, the difference is talent and leadership at QB. We got it, they don't. saintfan and Tobias-Reiper like this.

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01-12-2012, 04:22 PM	#1
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have. Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.