League admits mistake in Lions-Saints game

OldMaid · 01-09-2012, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTstunna

I wouldnt be this forgiving if we lost the game because of it, but everyone makes mistakes and refs arent perfect. but at least they called the play dead before the touchdown. that could have killed us

Totally agree.
When I first saw this thread, I thought "Oh no, don't tell me the refs ruled something against DetLions in favor of Saints."
Whew!

This is a critical thing. This cannot really happen. I am sure NFL will make more checks from the booth or headquarters, wherever.

homerj07 · 01-09-2012, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Choupique

A human being made a mistake in real-time-blistering-speed sporting activity. Wow, that never happens.

I'm more often amazed how many calls they get correct in a nanosecond.

I don't whine about the mistakes they make.
ALL humans make mistakes and it would be douchebaglike to blame or whine about it. Just sayin'.

The NFL often claims they've made mistakes. I respect that about them. I agree it is a non issue. Good point.

Several of us have said the same thing over the past few weeks. Most of us do cuss & yell during a game BUT... they do a hell of a lot better than I would ever do!!

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I'm sure the Schwartz will claim there's a conspiracy against his team now.

He got the best of all outcomes, given the events, and he still couldn't score.

Lets' see if he goes from douche to giant douche.

Already there.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

lets just let it go....

Give Det an assumed 7 points...

NO - 45
Det - 35

We still win...

Next victim

And, we had the ball at the goal line at the two minute warning. So, NO - 52 and DET 35. We still win...big.

I am so tired of worrying about Jim Schwartz's feelings this season. Can we all just move on? Jesus.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

But after the whistle they were awarded posession, it should have been Saints ball, and they ruled it a fumble Lions were unable to capitalize end of story.

Totally agree with analysis and resulting conclusion. Thank you, AlleyCat.

pinch · 01-10-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Choupique

A human being made a mistake in real-time-blistering-speed sporting activity. Wow, that never happens.

I'm more often amazed how many calls they get correct in a nanosecond.

I don't whine about the mistakes they make.
ALL humans make mistakes and it would be douchebaglike to blame or whine about it. Just sayin'.

The NFL often claims they've made mistakes. I respect that about them. I agree it is a non issue. Good point.

They definitely have a difficult job. However, I think what makes this particular case different is that it required no judgement or interpretation of the rules, it was the simply the application of a rule. In any particular game there are probably 5-10 calls that could go either way, especially when you're talking about pass interference, holding, and things of that nature. In most cases these cancel each other out as long as the referee is being consistent.

However, this particular case was simply the application of a rule and IMO there is no excuse for an entire team of referees to apply a known rule incorrectly. The whistle blew, the play is dead, no interpretation needed.

Halo · 01-10-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Am I really about to give Choupique a "like?"

LOL Uncle Choup has been "dead on" lately...

sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon

AlaskaSaints · 01-10-2012, 09:43 AM

Error on the side of possession in the future, before awarding the ball to a team on a questionable call.

I'm pleased that they couldn't capitalize.

Alaska

FireVenturi · 01-10-2012, 10:05 AM

I'm just glad that play didn't matter.

Boutte · 01-11-2012, 11:06 AM

I do think SloMotion is right though. Hire some younger guys who are full time professionals. Maybe look for ex-football players, but a helmet them and put them where they can see the action rather than worry about some one bumping into them and bruising their artery hardened brains.

01-09-2012, 08:04 PM	#21
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by SAINTstunna I wouldnt be this forgiving if we lost the game because of it, but everyone makes mistakes and refs arent perfect. but at least they called the play dead before the touchdown. that could have killed us Totally agree. When I first saw this thread, I thought "Oh no, don't tell me the refs ruled something against DetLions in favor of Saints." Whew! This is a critical thing. This cannot really happen. I am sure NFL will make more checks from the booth or headquarters, wherever.

01-09-2012, 08:44 PM	#22
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Originally Posted by Choupique A human being made a mistake in real-time-blistering-speed sporting activity. Wow, that never happens. I'm more often amazed how many calls they get correct in a nanosecond. I don't whine about the mistakes they make. ALL humans make mistakes and it would be douchebaglike to blame or whine about it. Just sayin'. The NFL often claims they've made mistakes. I respect that about them. I agree it is a non issue. Good point. Several of us have said the same thing over the past few weeks. Most of us do cuss & yell during a game BUT... they do a hell of a lot better than I would ever do!!

01-09-2012, 08:47 PM	#23
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by xan I'm sure the Schwartz will claim there's a conspiracy against his team now. He got the best of all outcomes, given the events, and he still couldn't score. Lets' see if he goes from douche to giant douche. Already there.

01-09-2012, 08:51 PM	#24
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by x626xBlack lets just let it go.... Give Det an assumed 7 points... NO - 45 Det - 35 We still win... Next victim And, we had the ball at the goal line at the two minute warning. So, NO - 52 and DET 35. We still win...big. I am so tired of worrying about Jim Schwartz's feelings this season. Can we all just move on? Jesus. SloMotion likes this.

01-09-2012, 08:55 PM	#25
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 But after the whistle they were awarded posession, it should have been Saints ball, and they ruled it a fumble Lions were unable to capitalize end of story. Totally agree with analysis and resulting conclusion. Thank you, AlleyCat.

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01-10-2012, 08:39 AM	#26
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Choupique A human being made a mistake in real-time-blistering-speed sporting activity. Wow, that never happens. I'm more often amazed how many calls they get correct in a nanosecond. I don't whine about the mistakes they make. ALL humans make mistakes and it would be douchebaglike to blame or whine about it. Just sayin'. The NFL often claims they've made mistakes. I respect that about them. I agree it is a non issue. Good point. They definitely have a difficult job. However, I think what makes this particular case different is that it required no judgement or interpretation of the rules, it was the simply the application of a rule. In any particular game there are probably 5-10 calls that could go either way, especially when you're talking about pass interference, holding, and things of that nature. In most cases these cancel each other out as long as the referee is being consistent. However, this particular case was simply the application of a rule and IMO there is no excuse for an entire team of referees to apply a known rule incorrectly. The whistle blew, the play is dead, no interpretation needed.

01-10-2012, 09:29 AM	#27
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,604 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by skymike Am I really about to give Choupique a "like?" LOL Uncle Choup has been "dead on" lately... sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon

01-10-2012, 09:43 AM	#28
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Error on the side of possession in the future, before awarding the ball to a team on a questionable call. I'm pleased that they couldn't capitalize. Alaska

01-10-2012, 10:05 AM	#29
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	I'm just glad that play didn't matter.

01-11-2012, 11:06 AM	#30
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	I do think SloMotion is right though. Hire some younger guys who are full time professionals. Maybe look for ex-football players, but a helmet them and put them where they can see the action rather than worry about some one bumping into them and bruising their artery hardened brains. SloMotion likes this.

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