greg williams is a dumb @ss!!

TheOak · 01-15-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504

I think it's a little more than the DC you have to have the right players to run it and it's a known fact that our front 4 is a joke

Ill reply to both you and Danno at the same time.

Either get rid of GW or the "not fit for purpose" players..

Either way our present Defense and GW style are not a good fit.

TheOak · 01-15-2012, 10:16 AM

Ok I just remembered another reason he needs to
go.

Anyone remember Smith around end for a TD last night?

Now think about another QB around opposite end for a TD ?

How about Stafford around end exposing a weakness just LAST WEEK!

westbankdaze · 01-15-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

I'm not saying the D lost the game for us, they're what kept us in it so the Drew and Co could do their miracle act. I'm saying Gregg Williams let the D down along with everybody else.

This is the way I feel about it too. GW ego got in the way in the end.

saintsfan1976 · 01-15-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Agreed

San Fran averages 23 points and 310 yards per game

Versus the Saints - 36 points and 407 yards

Our Defense stunk it up.

Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us....

papz · 01-15-2012, 10:52 AM

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Saints DC Gregg Williams is "expected" to join Jeff Fisher's staff in St. Louis.

Schefter rarely passes along pure speculation, so the odds appear high Williams has indeed coached his final game for the Saints. Schefter reports former Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo and Dolphins DC Mike Nolan are both possible replacements in New Orleans.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

If this is true, no need to wait. We have to put the full court press on Spags and Del Rio... let's not give the other teams an upper hand.

I'm willing to bet this though, with the personnel the Rams currently have on defense, I would not be surprised to see him be very successful over there.

saintfan · 01-15-2012, 11:22 AM

I think the defense needs a fresh start. I came to the decision last night whilst eating a large burrito.

I'm not saying yesterday was his fault. Personally, I'm not blitzing a soul on those last two drives, but I understand why we did. Our inability to get pressure with 4 is, in my opinion, probably the biggest weakness on our team. Yes, even bigger than Shanle.

The "D" has become static. We need some kind of change. We aren't going to spend big money on "D" if we plan to keep the offense relatively intact. I do think we have some players already on the defensive roster who are ready to take bigger roles, but I also think a coaching change might be a wise move if for nothing more than method to stir up the gris gris a little bit.

halloween 65 · 01-15-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us....

I agree with that to a point,6 turnovers to a sub- par offense and the D got the job done to that point, but they could not keep the lead when we got it. Forget the turnovers we crawled and scratched back hard to overcome the 6 tunrovers and did, just to watch our D blow up in the final 5 minutes of the game. We had the lead!! The D blew the lead!!

mike27 · 01-15-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man

So, like you I can cite two of the five turnovers, and say the offense sucks? No way. Sorry, if you look at the whole game, and the defense having to compensate for the offensive mistakes, they did great. Believe me, if we'd have had one or two less turnovers, just that slightly better statistic, we'd have won.

You've obviously got some kind of agenda here. Five turnovers isn't just a lot. It's a HUGE number, and they weren't made by the defense. I don't understand your blindness to this very obvious fact.

Cory9289 · 01-15-2012, 12:13 PM

Look, the offense was up and down, yes. But they made plays when it was NEEDED.

The defense played great all game, but did NOT make the plays when needed.

Did you hear Bradshaw after the game? Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

I'm sick of blitzing to no results and watching lackluster QB's smoke our defense.

mike27 · 01-15-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Cory9289

Look, the offense was up and down, yes. But they made plays when it was NEEDED.

The defense played great all game, but did NOT make the plays when needed.

Did you hear Bradshaw after the game? Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

I'm sick of blitzing to no results and watching lackluster QB's smoke our defense.

Sorry, you can't just ignore the huge downside of the turnovers. The statistic glares at you, and outside of creating injuries, apparently something SF does to every team, on purpose, it is why we lost the game.

We needed to not have those turnovers, but we did. So the offense didn't come up with what we "needed" either.

01-15-2012, 09:29 AM	#121
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 I think it's a little more than the DC you have to have the right players to run it and it's a known fact that our front 4 is a joke Ill reply to both you and Danno at the same time. Either get rid of GW or the "not fit for purpose" players.. Either way our present Defense and GW style are not a good fit.

01-15-2012, 10:21 AM	#123
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Originally Posted by Boutte I'm not saying the D lost the game for us, they're what kept us in it so the Drew and Co could do their miracle act. I'm saying Gregg Williams let the D down along with everybody else. This is the way I feel about it too. GW ego got in the way in the end.
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01-15-2012, 10:26 AM	#124
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Danno Agreed San Fran averages 23 points and 310 yards per game Versus the Saints - 36 points and 407 yards Our Defense stunk it up. Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us....

01-15-2012, 10:52 AM	#125
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Saints DC Gregg Williams is "expected" to join Jeff Fisher's staff in St. Louis. Schefter rarely passes along pure speculation, so the odds appear high Williams has indeed coached his final game for the Saints. Schefter reports former Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo and Dolphins DC Mike Nolan are both possible replacements in New Orleans. Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter If this is true, no need to wait. We have to put the full court press on Spags and Del Rio... let's not give the other teams an upper hand. I'm willing to bet this though, with the personnel the Rams currently have on defense, I would not be surprised to see him be very successful over there.
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01-15-2012, 11:22 AM	#126
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I think the defense needs a fresh start. I came to the decision last night whilst eating a large burrito. I'm not saying yesterday was his fault. Personally, I'm not blitzing a soul on those last two drives, but I understand why we did. Our inability to get pressure with 4 is, in my opinion, probably the biggest weakness on our team. Yes, even bigger than Shanle. The "D" has become static. We need some kind of change. We aren't going to spend big money on "D" if we plan to keep the offense relatively intact. I do think we have some players already on the defensive roster who are ready to take bigger roles, but I also think a coaching change might be a wise move if for nothing more than method to stir up the gris gris a little bit.
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01-15-2012, 10:16 AM	#122
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Ok I just remembered another reason he needs to go. Anyone remember Smith around end for a TD last night? Now think about another QB around opposite end for a TD ? How about Stafford around end exposing a weakness just LAST WEEK!

01-15-2012, 11:23 AM	#127
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us.... I agree with that to a point,6 turnovers to a sub- par offense and the D got the job done to that point, but they could not keep the lead when we got it. Forget the turnovers we crawled and scratched back hard to overcome the 6 tunrovers and did, just to watch our D blow up in the final 5 minutes of the game. We had the lead!! The D blew the lead!!

01-15-2012, 12:03 PM	#128
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by spkb25 uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man So, like you I can cite two of the five turnovers, and say the offense sucks? No way. Sorry, if you look at the whole game, and the defense having to compensate for the offensive mistakes, they did great. Believe me, if we'd have had one or two less turnovers, just that slightly better statistic, we'd have won. You've obviously got some kind of agenda here. Five turnovers isn't just a lot. It's a HUGE number, and they weren't made by the defense. I don't understand your blindness to this very obvious fact.

01-15-2012, 12:13 PM	#129
Cory9289 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 275	Look, the offense was up and down, yes. But they made plays when it was NEEDED. The defense played great all game, but did NOT make the plays when needed. Did you hear Bradshaw after the game? Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I'm sick of blitzing to no results and watching lackluster QB's smoke our defense.
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01-15-2012, 12:19 PM	#130
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Cory9289 Look, the offense was up and down, yes. But they made plays when it was NEEDED. The defense played great all game, but did NOT make the plays when needed. Did you hear Bradshaw after the game? Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I'm sick of blitzing to no results and watching lackluster QB's smoke our defense. Sorry, you can't just ignore the huge downside of the turnovers. The statistic glares at you, and outside of creating injuries, apparently something SF does to every team, on purpose, it is why we lost the game. We needed to not have those turnovers, but we did. So the offense didn't come up with what we "needed" either.

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