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Gregg Williams re-joins Fisher in St. Louis

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; After yesterday's game, I can't say I'm sad to see him go. Thanks for everything Gregg. Don't let the door hit you on the way out....

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Old 01-15-2012, 11:38 PM   #1
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After yesterday's game, I can't say I'm sad to see him go. Thanks for everything Gregg. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:56 PM   #2
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Maybe they will hire Bill Cower. Now that would be an excellent fit!!!! I feel like Williams had a god run, but proved he hasn't been able to find the right mix of plays to keep up with todays offenses. Its kind of strange that we only lost two key players in Sharper and Fujita and all of the sudden we had a lethargic defense dont you think?
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LOL....Maybe we should bring back Haslette?
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Steve Spagnuolo to the Saints?

In his two seasons as the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants in 2007 and 2008 here is where they ranked:

2007 season:

7th overall defense
11th against the pass
8th against the rush

2008 season:

5th overall
8th against the pass
9th against the rush

He was on an upward trend when the rams took him from the Giants. Looks like the role of defensive coordinator fits him best. What do you think?

Spagnuolo spent 8 years with the Eagles where he was in three different positions throughout his tenure before he was recruited to New York:

1999: Defensive assistant/ Quality control-Philly was 24th overall in Defense
2000: Defensive assistant/ Quality control-Philly was 10th overall in Defense
2001: Defensive backs- Philly was 7th overall in Defense and 2nd against the pass
2002: Defensive backs- Pilly was 4th overall in Defense and 7th against the pass as well as 9th against the rush
2003: Defensive backs- Philly was 20th overall
2004:Linebackers- Philly was 10th overall
2005:Linebackers- Philly was 23rd overall
2006:Linebackers- Philly was 15th overall but 9th against the pass.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:47 AM   #5
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Because we won the superbowl in 2009, Williams received some praise but it really had nothing to do with Williams in my opinion. In his 3 years here, the defense gave up on an average of 344 yards per game. That's terrible. The only difference between the superbowl year and these last 2 are turnovers. 2009 we had 26 ints and a +11 turnover ratio! 2010 and 2011 combined we only have 18 ints and -5 turnover ratio. We need a front 4 that can apply pressure so that we can use the FS like we did with Sharper where he is able to ball hawk and not be in coverage all the time. Relying on the blitz puts our FS in coverage too much and not allowing him to roam like Sharper did and like Ed Reed and the head and shoulders guy does.

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Old 01-16-2012, 12:33 PM   #6
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Because we won the superbowl in 2009, Williams received some praise but it really had nothing to do with Williams in my opinion. In his 3 years here, the defense gave up on an average of 344 yards per game. That's terrible. The only difference between the superbowl year and these last 2 are turnovers. 2009 we had 26 ints and a +11 turnover ratio! 2010 and 2011 combined we only have 18 ints and -5 turnover ratio. We need a front 4 that can apply pressure so that we can use the FS like we did with Sharper where he is able to ball hawk and not be in coverage all the time. Relying on the blitz puts our FS in coverage too much and not allowing him to roam like Sharper did and like Ed Reed and the head and shoulders guy does.
Nothing to do with it, that is so foolish as to be ridiculous. That defense was detracted from all year-long by pundits, and preventing yardage wasn't their forte. Their forte was in keeping yardage minimized, and creation of turnovers. We haven't had that as much in the last 2 years, true.

Here's what I have to say--Thanks Greg Williams, for the Super-Bowl win. You were part of that, and all the nay-saying ninnies don't seem to get you just aren't going to win one every year. There are 32 teams, for Christ's sake. Get a grip, the offense did great, EXCEPT for giving up 5 turnovers, and Thomas got knocked out in the first drive, a nearly crucial part of the plan. Stop focusing on one drive, and look at the real cause, the TURNOVERS. Jesus, the blind will not see, apparently.

And can we all learn that "loose" is not "lose." Why is it people make that error so much, is it a typo? Lose is when you don't win, and loose means you are free to roam, not tied down.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:44 PM   #7
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Nothing to do with it, that is so foolish as to be ridiculous. That defense was detracted from all year-long by pundits, and preventing yardage wasn't their forte. Their forte was in keeping yardage minimized, and creation of turnovers. We haven't had that as much in the last 2 years, true.

Here's what I have to say--Thanks Greg Williams, for the Super-Bowl win. You were part of that, and all the nay-saying ninnies don't seem to get you just aren't going to win one every year. There are 32 teams, for Christ's sake. Get a grip, the offense did great, EXCEPT for giving up 5 turnovers, and Thomas got knocked out in the first drive, a nearly crucial part of the plan. Stop focusing on one drive, and look at the real cause, the TURNOVERS. Jesus, the blind will not see, apparently.

And can we all learn that "loose" is not "lose." Why is it people make that error so much, is it a typo? Lose is when you don't win, and loose means you are free to roam, not tied down.
X-2 None of the defensive players turned the ball over! You CAN NOT have turnovers in playoff games. Every team that turned the ball over lost!
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:57 PM   #8
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Nothing to do with it, that is so foolish as to be ridiculous. That defense was detracted from all year-long by pundits, and preventing yardage wasn't their forte. Their forte was in keeping yardage minimized, and creation of turnovers. We haven't had that as much in the last 2 years, true.

Here's what I have to say--Thanks Greg Williams, for the Super-Bowl win. You were part of that, and all the nay-saying ninnies don't seem to get you just aren't going to win one every year. There are 32 teams, for Christ's sake. Get a grip, the offense did great, EXCEPT for giving up 5 turnovers, and Thomas got knocked out in the first drive, a nearly crucial part of the plan. Stop focusing on one drive, and look at the real cause, the TURNOVERS. Jesus, the blind will not see, apparently.

And can we all learn that "loose" is not "lose." Why is it people make that error so much, is it a typo? Lose is when you don't win, and loose means you are free to roam, not tied down.
Look here guy, all of your posts about this topic lean toward you telling us we are all stupid and are ninnies because we don't see things the way you do. You ever look in the mirror with a comment like"the blind will not see".

Lastly...THIS IS NOT ENGLISH CLASS!!. If we have typos who gives a crap. It's a forum not school. Get over your self please.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:24 PM   #9
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......Thanks Greg Williams, for the Super-Bowl win. You were part of that........
Accepted.

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..... There are 32 teams, for Christ's sake........
Yep and we were pretty badly rated in many indicators of a good defense, for goodness sake.

This season we have had some horrendous scares with Houston and Carolina and Atlanta and Tennessee. I remember well the repeat passes to our non-coverage defense of
Atlanta - Ryan passes to H.Douglas
and Tennessee's last 2 drives and Locker passes to N Washington.

Each time a whole chunk of yards being given up. Heck keep them away. Let them hail mary the ball from 50 yards away with no time on the clock.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:40 AM   #10
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And can we all learn that "loose" is not "lose." Why is it people make that error so much, is it a typo? Lose is when you don't win, and loose means you are free to roam, not tied down.
Forget about it. It is spelled incorrectly more than any other word and I don't know why.

For the record...another word...definitely...is very commonly spelled "definately".

In the end, though, I am being a real hypocrite (sp? ) because if it were up to me we would adopt a new rule when it comes to English and spelling. We are already in the midst of it with our "chat" lingo...so why not just go out and make it official. A word is spelled the way you want to spell it.

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