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Old 01-15-2012, 05:44 PM   #1
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Just so we can end this debate now:

"It has been broadcast at every level not to lead with your head."

- Dr. Hunt Batjer, co-chairman for the NFL's Brain, Head and Neck Medical Committee

NFL.com news: League could suspend players for helmet-to-helmet hits
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:23 AM   #2
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Look, I hated losing PT but I liked the hit. They need to review the rule anyway. I want to see more big hits from the Saints. We need a mean streak on defense. Del Rio come on down!
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:44 AM   #3
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I was arguing with a buddy of mine about this yesterday. He actually played college ball (defensive lineman), so I usually defer to him, but I had to disagree this time. I reminded him that the "it'll take away from the game" argument was used about the NBA in the 90s, when they cleaned up the "hard fouls" in that league. Everyone bemoaned that it will take defense out the game, and it has to some extent, but it didn't kill the sport. I remember in the 80s when a team scoring 100 was very rare, now a winning team scoring less than 100 is rare. And I honestly don't hear too many complaints about it. Fans just sit back and enjoy the dunks. So I think if the NFL got stricter in helmet-to-helmet, people will complain at first, like they always do, but in a decade, most fans won't even remember a time when there was less than 1 touchdown per quarter. They'll just sit back and enjoy the touchdowns.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:24 AM   #4
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As a footbollplayer I just know that I think a hit like that should be illegal. You always hate to see somebdy get hurt and seeing Thomas going limp before he even hit the field was pretty scary. I like hard hits and all that but I don't like it to be dangerous to peoples longtime health.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:25 AM   #5
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It was just a good tackle.
I have to admit, Frisco was hitting hard Saturday afternoon.
Pierre has avoided dead-on licks like that all season, and the one
he couldn't avoid seemd to be our demise. We missed both Pieere
and Lance Moore in that game. That turnover set the tone for the
rest of the game. Our first drive deep into the scoring zone came up empty.
Their hard hitting even gave Colston aligator arms on that late game goal line throw.
Rather than that that turnover reinforcing all the prepatory talk about ball safety, it
seemed to snowball and we kept giving the ball away. We shot ourselves
in the foot and still ALMOST hobbled out of there with the victory.
I've said it all season, when you win UGLY, its just a matter of time
before that lose ugly twin shows up.

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Old 01-16-2012, 11:56 AM   #6
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I would have to look at the tape, but I remember it being very quick, like barely turned around after catching pass, and "bam." I think it was unnecessary roughness myself, always will, and I think the guy targeted him, and he didn't have any reaction time at all.

But in truth, I felt like they called all of the games with a less critical eye toward hitting, and injuries. It seemed almost like all the refs were told "Hey, don't call anything that isn't completely blatant." I was seeing an awful lot of pass-interference on the D's too, that were uncalled.

And who suffered the lack of calls? Teams that pass more, N.O. and G.B. in particular.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:02 PM   #7
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Good tackle. C'mon guys this is spilled milk.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:54 PM   #8
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Thomas lowered his head for the impact, Whitner lowered his head= Whitner won. If the impact would have knocked Whitner out instead of Thomas this board would be laughing about it just like the Niner fans are now.
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:20 PM   #9
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Thomas lowered his head for the impact, Whitner lowered his head= Whitner won. If the impact would have knocked Whitner out instead of Thomas this board would be laughing about it just like the Niner fans are now.
This!

Come on guys, that hit was perfectly legal. I hate like hell that it happened and it really changed the complexion of the game, but there was nothing wrong with it. PT clearly caught the ball, turned up field and became a runner. Helmet to helmet is allowed every time in that case. Let's not act like Viqueen fans and take our medicine. We got beat fair and square by a team that did more thing to win than we did on Saturday.
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:05 PM   #10
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Any news on PT? I'm worried about him.
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