Not having a #1 pick may be good for us

The Dude · 01-17-2012, 03:15 AM

Not having a first round pick means not having to pay first round money. Pair that with the rookie pay scale and we have enough to pay Nicks, Evans, and Colston. We have skill in finding late round picks who turn out to be winners, lets hope we get some defensive help.

gandhi1007 · 01-17-2012, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Not having a first round pick means not having to pay first round money. Pair that with the rookie pay scale and we have enough to pay Nicks, Evans, and Colston. We have skill in finding late round picks who turn out to be winners, lets hope we get some defensive help.

Since the compromise, 1st rounders are a heck of alot cheaper. I don't get this logic.

dizzle88 · 01-17-2012, 07:09 AM

Our first round picks never work out for us anyway, we have success drafting players later, jimmy graham, marques colston, devery Henderson etc

But we NEED NEED NEEEED an OLB AND A DE FOR DEFINITE THIS YEAR FO

Danno · 01-17-2012, 09:37 AM

We're picking late in the 1st round. That pick will be cheap.

And a lot of people don't realize that Mark Ingram isn't making a ton of money. As Ghandi pointed out 1st rounders make a fraction of what they used to.

Ingram barely made more than Vet minimum this year.
Year__Base___Bonus____CapHit
2011 375,000 97,250 - 472,250
2012 712,125 97,250 - 809,375
2013 1,049,000 97,250 - 1,146,250
2014 1,387,000 97,250 - 1,484,250

In comparison, Chris Ivory made 406,667

Pierre Thomas amade 3,340,000 this season.

Mark Ingram Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

papz · 01-17-2012, 09:41 AM

Screw not having one... I wish I had 2 first round picks.

dizzle88 · 01-17-2012, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

We're picking late in the 1st round. That pick will be cheap.

And a lot of people don't realize that Mark Ingram isn't making a ton of money. As Ghandi pointed out 1st rounders make a fraction of what they used to.

Ingram barely made more than Vet minimum this year.
Year__Base___Bonus____CapHit
2011 375,000 97,250 - 472,250
2012 712,125 97,250 - 809,375
2013 1,049,000 97,250 - 1,146,250
2014 1,387,000 97,250 - 1,484,250

In comparison, Chris Ivory made 406,667

Pierre Thomas amade 3,340,000 this season.

Mark Ingram Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

Didn't we trade this years pick to the Patriots so we could move up and get Ingram.
I thought we traded our 1st round pick of this year to get ingram, so we don't even have a first round pick this year right?

W. Kovacs · 01-17-2012, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Didn't we trade this years pick to the Patriots so we could move up and get Ingram.
I thought we traded our 1st round pick of this year to get ingram, so we don't even have a first round pick this year right?

this is correct unless I've missed something somewhere.

(and we traded it to the dang Patriots, so they have like 560 picks over the next two years.)

halloween 65 · 01-17-2012, 09:54 AM

We have DE's, lots of them, I could see getting rid of Smith for a pick or trade, we also have Romeus waiting in the wings, I think we are set there. LB's, I also want 1 more that is heavy,with speed. I really want 2 DT's, that is the need I see. Maybe we can get a pick for Ellis also. All of this is going to depend on the new DC but getting rid of those 2 overhyped players would clear up some cap space. Vilma has to go too.

Danno · 01-17-2012, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Didn't we trade this years pick to the Patriots so we could move up and get Ingram.
I thought we traded our 1st round pick of this year to get ingram, so we don't even have a first round pick this year right?

Oops, I meant "we were picking late" referring to last year, and we'll be picking late again this year. And if we had a 1st, it would have been cheap.

I combined two thoughts into one, along with typos just to confuse the hell out of everyone.

CharityMike · 01-17-2012, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

We have DE's, lots of them, I could see getting rid of Smith for a pick or trade, we also have Romeus waiting in the wings, I think we are set there. LB's, I also want 1 more that is heavy,with speed. I really want 2 DT's, that is the need I see. Maybe we can get a pick for Ellis also. All of this is going to depend on the new DC but getting rid of those 2 overhyped players would clear up some cap space. Vilma has to go too.

This is why I think we resign Brees, Nicks and Colston. Top teir guys with expired contracts gets us nothing. To make any kind of serious moves we gonna have to drop some of these high priced, low output defensive guys. They the ones sucking up all the cap room.

01-17-2012, 03:15 AM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Not having a #1 pick may be good for us Not having a first round pick means not having to pay first round money. Pair that with the rookie pay scale and we have enough to pay Nicks, Evans, and Colston. We have skill in finding late round picks who turn out to be winners, lets hope we get some defensive help.
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01-17-2012, 03:26 AM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by The Dude Not having a first round pick means not having to pay first round money. Pair that with the rookie pay scale and we have enough to pay Nicks, Evans, and Colston. We have skill in finding late round picks who turn out to be winners, lets hope we get some defensive help. Since the compromise, 1st rounders are a heck of alot cheaper. I don't get this logic.

01-17-2012, 09:43 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Originally Posted by Danno We're picking late in the 1st round. That pick will be cheap. And a lot of people don't realize that Mark Ingram isn't making a ton of money. As Ghandi pointed out 1st rounders make a fraction of what they used to. Ingram barely made more than Vet minimum this year. Year__Base___Bonus____CapHit 2011 375,000 97,250 - 472,250 2012 712,125 97,250 - 809,375 2013 1,049,000 97,250 - 1,146,250 2014 1,387,000 97,250 - 1,484,250 In comparison, Chris Ivory made 406,667 Pierre Thomas amade 3,340,000 this season. Mark Ingram Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Didn't we trade this years pick to the Patriots so we could move up and get Ingram. I thought we traded our 1st round pick of this year to get ingram, so we don't even have a first round pick this year right?

01-17-2012, 09:47 AM	#7
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Originally Posted by dizzle88 Didn't we trade this years pick to the Patriots so we could move up and get Ingram. I thought we traded our 1st round pick of this year to get ingram, so we don't even have a first round pick this year right? this is correct unless I've missed something somewhere. (and we traded it to the dang Patriots, so they have like 560 picks over the next two years.)

01-17-2012, 09:54 AM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	We have DE's, lots of them, I could see getting rid of Smith for a pick or trade, we also have Romeus waiting in the wings, I think we are set there. LB's, I also want 1 more that is heavy,with speed. I really want 2 DT's, that is the need I see. Maybe we can get a pick for Ellis also. All of this is going to depend on the new DC but getting rid of those 2 overhyped players would clear up some cap space. Vilma has to go too. W. Kovacs likes this.

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01-17-2012, 07:09 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Our first round picks never work out for us anyway, we have success drafting players later, jimmy graham, marques colston, devery Henderson etc But we NEED NEED NEEEED an OLB AND A DE FOR DEFINITE THIS YEAR FO

01-17-2012, 09:37 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	We're picking late in the 1st round. That pick will be cheap. And a lot of people don't realize that Mark Ingram isn't making a ton of money. As Ghandi pointed out 1st rounders make a fraction of what they used to. Ingram barely made more than Vet minimum this year. Year__Base___Bonus____CapHit 2011 375,000 97,250 - 472,250 2012 712,125 97,250 - 809,375 2013 1,049,000 97,250 - 1,146,250 2014 1,387,000 97,250 - 1,484,250 In comparison, Chris Ivory made 406,667 Pierre Thomas amade 3,340,000 this season. Mark Ingram Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

01-17-2012, 09:41 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Screw not having one... I wish I had 2 first round picks.

01-17-2012, 10:01 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by dizzle88 Didn't we trade this years pick to the Patriots so we could move up and get Ingram. I thought we traded our 1st round pick of this year to get ingram, so we don't even have a first round pick this year right? Oops, I meant "we were picking late" referring to last year, and we'll be picking late again this year. And if we had a 1st, it would have been cheap. I combined two thoughts into one, along with typos just to confuse the hell out of everyone.

01-17-2012, 10:06 AM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by halloween 65 We have DE's, lots of them, I could see getting rid of Smith for a pick or trade, we also have Romeus waiting in the wings, I think we are set there. LB's, I also want 1 more that is heavy,with speed. I really want 2 DT's, that is the need I see. Maybe we can get a pick for Ellis also. All of this is going to depend on the new DC but getting rid of those 2 overhyped players would clear up some cap space. Vilma has to go too. This is why I think we resign Brees, Nicks and Colston. Top teir guys with expired contracts gets us nothing. To make any kind of serious moves we gonna have to drop some of these high priced, low output defensive guys. They the ones sucking up all the cap room. halloween 65 and W. Kovacs like this.

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