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RaginCajun83 · 01-20-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

According to the info I have Smith's cap hit for next season is actually $9.75M ($7M base; $2M signing bonus; $750K other bonuses) - and yes it is far too much for his productivity whether it is $8.75M or $9.75M.

Wow wow wow, this guy should be thrown in jail for stealing that much money from the Saints.

FinSaint · 01-20-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Wow wow wow, this guy should be thrown in jail for stealing that much money from the Saints.

FireVenturi · 01-20-2012, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Dude is like 30 already, and pretty much missed half the season. No idea why the love for this guy...

Because no one on our roster can get after a qb like he can!!!

Haps Biggest Fan · 01-21-2012, 01:19 AM

If Ellis is cut, do we have to pay his salary?

papz · 01-21-2012, 02:46 AM

No we take a cap hit but we don't pay his salary.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-21-2012, 02:47 AM

I'd vote for anyone who sacked Drew this year. This year, that was a very good trick.

Danno · 01-21-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by papz

No we take a cap hit but we don't pay his salary.

Which brings up a question.

If we cut him, his cap hit is 2 million.
If we keep him, his cap hit is 6 million.

So basically keeping him only costs us 4 million for 2012.

Thats not a ton of money for a "decent" DT, and the player we sign to replace him will be at least 4 million.

IMO its cheaper to keep him, this year.

FinSaint · 01-21-2012, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Which brings up a question.

If we cut him, his cap hit is 2 million.
If we keep him, his cap hit is 6 million.

So basically keeping him only costs us 4 million for 2012.

Thats not a ton of money for a "decent" DT, and the player we sign to replace him will be at least 4 million.

IMO its cheaper to keep him, this year.

I'm hoping that if Spags finds him to be someone he can work with in order to improve his overall game and productivity - they'll work out a restructured deal, which would keep him with the team f.e. for 3-4 years, but with a lower base salary ~ 3M.

I mean there are a lot of DTs on the FA market this year, and it is not guaranteed he would land another job with another team if he was to be released, so they might be able to strong-arm him into a favorable contract.

halloween 65 · 01-21-2012, 05:50 PM

What do any of you think we could get if we trade Smith and Ellis, I could go for freeing up cap space and a few picks, he!! I'd throw Vilma in this also??

hagan714 · 01-21-2012, 07:26 PM

man one so-so year for ellis and everyone has him on the block. His first two years everyone was gaga over him. keep him

Smith was not his old self this year and while cutting him seem like the move we will not get that much cap relief till he signs else where and even then we are on the hook for the difference. proceed with caution.

trade will? have to be tied into a draft day deal imo or the takers will be looking for a cheap deal

01-20-2012, 06:21 PM	#31
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Originally Posted by FinSaint According to the info I have Smith's cap hit for next season is actually $9.75M ($7M base; $2M signing bonus; $750K other bonuses) - and yes it is far too much for his productivity whether it is $8.75M or $9.75M. Wow wow wow, this guy should be thrown in jail for stealing that much money from the Saints.

01-20-2012, 06:37 PM	#32
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Wow wow wow, this guy should be thrown in jail for stealing that much money from the Saints.

01-20-2012, 10:53 PM	#33
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by MatthewT Dude is like 30 already, and pretty much missed half the season. No idea why the love for this guy... Because no one on our roster can get after a qb like he can!!!

01-21-2012, 05:22 PM	#37
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by papz No we take a cap hit but we don't pay his salary. Which brings up a question. If we cut him, his cap hit is 2 million. If we keep him, his cap hit is 6 million. So basically keeping him only costs us 4 million for 2012. Thats not a ton of money for a "decent" DT, and the player we sign to replace him will be at least 4 million. IMO its cheaper to keep him, this year.

01-21-2012, 05:35 PM	#38
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Danno Which brings up a question. If we cut him, his cap hit is 2 million. If we keep him, his cap hit is 6 million. So basically keeping him only costs us 4 million for 2012. Thats not a ton of money for a "decent" DT, and the player we sign to replace him will be at least 4 million. IMO its cheaper to keep him, this year. I'm hoping that if Spags finds him to be someone he can work with in order to improve his overall game and productivity - they'll work out a restructured deal, which would keep him with the team f.e. for 3-4 years, but with a lower base salary ~ 3M. I mean there are a lot of DTs on the FA market this year, and it is not guaranteed he would land another job with another team if he was to be released, so they might be able to strong-arm him into a favorable contract. Saint_LB likes this.

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01-21-2012, 01:19 AM	#34
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	If Ellis is cut, do we have to pay his salary?

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	No we take a cap hit but we don't pay his salary.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	What do any of you think we could get if we trade Smith and Ellis, I could go for freeing up cap space and a few picks, he!! I'd throw Vilma in this also??

01-21-2012, 07:26 PM	#40
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	man one so-so year for ellis and everyone has him on the block. His first two years everyone was gaga over him. keep him Smith was not his old self this year and while cutting him seem like the move we will not get that much cap relief till he signs else where and even then we are on the hook for the difference. proceed with caution. trade will? have to be tied into a draft day deal imo or the takers will be looking for a cheap deal

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