Brees,'I will be beyond stunned' if deal isn't reach with Saints

ScottF · 01-20-2012, 02:34 PM

Cap will eventually be an issue, probably this year. Glad to see Drew sees that as well. Time to get creative, like Benson donating a million to Brees' charity and then paying Drew a little less

also, Arrington's rise might mean Devery or Meachem have become too expensive,

Crusader · 01-20-2012, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

also, Arrington's rise might mean Devery or Meachem have become too expensive,

Arringtons what? He is our 6th WR for a reason. I have not seen any rise from him at all.

ScottF · 01-21-2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Arringtons what? He is our 6th WR for a reason. I have not seen any rise from him at all.

Henderson couldn't catch anything his first two years, and Meachem was inactive practically his entire rookie year. SP obviously has confidence in AA or he would have brought someone else in. He has had two years to look at him, so there must be something there.
He's our 6th receiver bc the top 5 are all above average, and Drew can get the ball to anyone, including a 5th string TE named Higgins

My point is that we are going to need the money, and if that means losing Devery or Meachem and moving AA to the 5th spot, I'm fine with that

FinSaint · 01-21-2012, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Henderson couldn't catch anything his first two years, and Meachem was inactive practically his entire rookie year. SP obviously has confidence in AA or he would have brought someone else in. He has had two years to look at him, so there must be something there.
He's our 6th receiver bc the top 5 are all above average, and Drew can get the ball to anyone, including a 5th string TE named Higgins

My point is that we are going to need the money, and if that means losing Devery or Meachem and moving AA to the 5th spot, I'm fine with that

I'm more hopeful at the prospect of both Morgan and Tanner being able to elevate their game and maybe earn an active roster spot than Arrington suddenly becoming a lot better... unfortunately I think we've already seen his back of tricks.

ScottF · 01-21-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'm more hopeful at the prospect of both Morgan and Tanner being able to elevate their game and maybe earn an active roster spot than Arrington suddenly becoming a lot better... unfortunately I think we've already seen his back of tricks.

we'll see...was Morgan's injury for real? We have a penchant for putting guys on IR w/ marginal injuries just so we can keep them and get them a paycheck.
I think Tanner is a practice body, and if he could have, he would have beaten out AA already

FinSaint · 01-21-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

we'll see...was Morgan's injury for real? We have a penchant for putting guys on IR w/ marginal injuries just so we can keep them and get them a paycheck.
I think Tanner is a practice body, and if he could have, he would have beaten out AA already

But you have to remember that neither of these guys hardly had any OTAs or extended pre-season practice camps whereas AA has been given these opportunities, but still his development hasn't really impressed anyone in particular... at least I haven't read a single press release where someone from the staff had praised AA's development.

And Morgan was indeed really injured in the pre-season - he underwent arthroscopic knee surgery, which in itself would probably not have ended his season, but missing those 4 to 5 weeks it takes to rehab after that type of a surgery really put him behind the 8 ball towards claiming a roster spot.

There are number of technical benefits to "red shirt" a rookie player for the year instead of trying to get him back to the roster at a later date, but I have no doubts that if he hadn't gotten injured he would have made a serious bid for the #6 WR spot ahead of AA.

Belair57 · 01-21-2012, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Cap will eventually be an issue, probably this year. Glad to see Drew sees that as well. Time to get creative, like Benson donating a million to Brees' charity and then paying Drew a little less

also, Arrington's rise might mean Devery or Meachem have become too expensive,

I wouldnt call AA's 2 catches for the year a rise, he was only in because of Moores injury..plus id rather have Devery or Meachem over AA. JMO

01-20-2012, 05:48 PM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Originally Posted by ScottF also, Arrington's rise might mean Devery or Meachem have become too expensive, Arringtons what? He is our 6th WR for a reason. I have not seen any rise from him at all. SapperSaint likes this.

01-21-2012, 08:46 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by Crusader Arringtons what? He is our 6th WR for a reason. I have not seen any rise from him at all. Henderson couldn't catch anything his first two years, and Meachem was inactive practically his entire rookie year. SP obviously has confidence in AA or he would have brought someone else in. He has had two years to look at him, so there must be something there. He's our 6th receiver bc the top 5 are all above average, and Drew can get the ball to anyone, including a 5th string TE named Higgins My point is that we are going to need the money, and if that means losing Devery or Meachem and moving AA to the 5th spot, I'm fine with that

01-21-2012, 08:55 AM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by ScottF Henderson couldn't catch anything his first two years, and Meachem was inactive practically his entire rookie year. SP obviously has confidence in AA or he would have brought someone else in. He has had two years to look at him, so there must be something there. He's our 6th receiver bc the top 5 are all above average, and Drew can get the ball to anyone, including a 5th string TE named Higgins My point is that we are going to need the money, and if that means losing Devery or Meachem and moving AA to the 5th spot, I'm fine with that I'm more hopeful at the prospect of both Morgan and Tanner being able to elevate their game and maybe earn an active roster spot than Arrington suddenly becoming a lot better... unfortunately I think we've already seen his back of tricks.

01-21-2012, 11:56 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by FinSaint I'm more hopeful at the prospect of both Morgan and Tanner being able to elevate their game and maybe earn an active roster spot than Arrington suddenly becoming a lot better... unfortunately I think we've already seen his back of tricks. we'll see...was Morgan's injury for real? We have a penchant for putting guys on IR w/ marginal injuries just so we can keep them and get them a paycheck. I think Tanner is a practice body, and if he could have, he would have beaten out AA already

01-21-2012, 12:19 PM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by ScottF we'll see...was Morgan's injury for real? We have a penchant for putting guys on IR w/ marginal injuries just so we can keep them and get them a paycheck. I think Tanner is a practice body, and if he could have, he would have beaten out AA already But you have to remember that neither of these guys hardly had any OTAs or extended pre-season practice camps whereas AA has been given these opportunities, but still his development hasn't really impressed anyone in particular... at least I haven't read a single press release where someone from the staff had praised AA's development. And Morgan was indeed really injured in the pre-season - he underwent arthroscopic knee surgery, which in itself would probably not have ended his season, but missing those 4 to 5 weeks it takes to rehab after that type of a surgery really put him behind the 8 ball towards claiming a roster spot. There are number of technical benefits to "red shirt" a rookie player for the year instead of trying to get him back to the roster at a later date, but I have no doubts that if he hadn't gotten injured he would have made a serious bid for the #6 WR spot ahead of AA.
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01-20-2012, 02:34 PM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Cap will eventually be an issue, probably this year. Glad to see Drew sees that as well. Time to get creative, like Benson donating a million to Brees' charity and then paying Drew a little less also, Arrington's rise might mean Devery or Meachem have become too expensive,

01-21-2012, 11:27 PM	#7
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	Originally Posted by ScottF Cap will eventually be an issue, probably this year. Glad to see Drew sees that as well. Time to get creative, like Benson donating a million to Brees' charity and then paying Drew a little less also, Arrington's rise might mean Devery or Meachem have become too expensive, I wouldnt call AA's 2 catches for the year a rise, he was only in because of Moores injury..plus id rather have Devery or Meachem over AA. JMO
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