Exit Interview: Defensive overhaul on agenda for Saints

01-21-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Or they might decide to keep Meachem and promote from within.

Still, one thing is certain - they wouldn't replace Colston through the draft and the FA market isn't really overfilled with great WR talent to be had for bargain price.

Meachem is not Colston. He's more of a Devery Henderson.

FinSaint · 01-21-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Meachem is not Colston. He's more of a Devery Henderson.

I'm not saying he is as good as Colston, but that might be the situation they find themselves in, and with Brees distributing the ball to various receivers as he does - it might not be a bad thing.

If it means that they can sign Nicks (along with Brees obviously) and the bodies they need to overhaul the defense - I'd be fine with seeing Colston leave to get the big deal from somewhere else.

hagan714 · 01-21-2012, 07:45 PM

I am going to stick my neck out here. Secondary is not Spags style. CB is due able but safety is another thing. Do the saints go for a ball hawking FS or a SS with hands? in Spags world SS is not that big of a deal.

I look for a shake up here in the secondary

jeanpierre · 01-21-2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I am going to stick my neck out here. Secondary is not Spags style. CB is due able but safety is another thing. Do the saints go for a ball hawking FS or a SS with hands? in Spags world SS is not that big of a deal.

I look for a shake up here in the secondary

Both 2011 starting safeties with their salaries and/or inability to cover are expendable...

Does new coaching change make them better?

Danno · 01-22-2012, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Both 2011 starting safeties with their salaries and/or inability to cover are expendable...

Does new coaching change make them better?

3 million between the both of them isn't a lot of money.

Having your 200 pound 4.5 speed safeties play man coverage on a 6-3, 260 pound TE who runs a 4.38 is expendable.

halloween 65 · 01-22-2012, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

3 million between the both of them isn't a lot of money.

Having your 200 pound 4.5 speed safeties play man coverage on a 6-3, 260 pound TE who runs a 4.38 is expendable.

Agreed. Rams problem now. I think Quaddus is going to do well with this new DC. The entire secondary should be much better.

ScottF · 01-22-2012, 11:12 AM

I am not sure of how many guys we will actually switch out.
Factor the big money used on resigning offensive players and our lack of a number 1 pick. The net is I doubt we get an impact player via the draft or FA.

The question is this: Were our defensive problems last year personnel or coaching?
I think Spagnola will be more conservative, and the result will be we don't give up the huge chunks of yards that we saw the last two years

Rugby Saint II · 01-22-2012, 02:20 PM

As for WR we have Joe Morgan and Andy Tanner on the PS or IR. Even though Curtis Johnson is gone these two have some ability than can be developed quickly. If these guys step into a rotation or starting role we could afford to lose Colston. Although, it would hurt my heart.
The reason I am off topic is Colston could want as much as 7 million. With that money we could upgrade our defense.
We could also upgrade our defense by cutting Smith.

Danno · 01-22-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The reason I am off topic is Colston could want as much as 7 million. With that money we could upgrade our defense.

Gongrats, you're the 1st I've heard bring up that point, and its a damn good one.

Imagine the defender we could get with Colston money.

The upgrade on defense would greatly outweigh the loss on offense, assuming we signed the defensive equivalent of a Marques Colston.

01-21-2012, 05:41 PM	#11
Threaded by gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by FinSaint Or they might decide to keep Meachem and promote from within. Still, one thing is certain - they wouldn't replace Colston through the draft and the FA market isn't really overfilled with great WR talent to be had for bargain price. Meachem is not Colston. He's more of a Devery Henderson.
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01-21-2012, 05:46 PM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Meachem is not Colston. He's more of a Devery Henderson. I'm not saying he is as good as Colston, but that might be the situation they find themselves in, and with Brees distributing the ball to various receivers as he does - it might not be a bad thing. If it means that they can sign Nicks (along with Brees obviously) and the bodies they need to overhaul the defense - I'd be fine with seeing Colston leave to get the big deal from somewhere else.

01-21-2012, 07:45 PM	#13
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	I am going to stick my neck out here. Secondary is not Spags style. CB is due able but safety is another thing. Do the saints go for a ball hawking FS or a SS with hands? in Spags world SS is not that big of a deal. I look for a shake up here in the secondary jeanpierre likes this.

01-21-2012, 11:40 PM	#14
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by hagan714 I am going to stick my neck out here. Secondary is not Spags style. CB is due able but safety is another thing. Do the saints go for a ball hawking FS or a SS with hands? in Spags world SS is not that big of a deal. I look for a shake up here in the secondary Both 2011 starting safeties with their salaries and/or inability to cover are expendable... Does new coaching change make them better?

01-22-2012, 09:40 AM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Both 2011 starting safeties with their salaries and/or inability to cover are expendable... Does new coaching change make them better? 3 million between the both of them isn't a lot of money. Having your 200 pound 4.5 speed safeties play man coverage on a 6-3, 260 pound TE who runs a 4.38 is expendable.

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01-22-2012, 10:14 AM	#16
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by Danno 3 million between the both of them isn't a lot of money. Having your 200 pound 4.5 speed safeties play man coverage on a 6-3, 260 pound TE who runs a 4.38 is expendable. Agreed. Rams problem now. I think Quaddus is going to do well with this new DC. The entire secondary should be much better.

01-22-2012, 11:12 AM	#17
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	I am not sure of how many guys we will actually switch out. Factor the big money used on resigning offensive players and our lack of a number 1 pick. The net is I doubt we get an impact player via the draft or FA. The question is this: Were our defensive problems last year personnel or coaching? I think Spagnola will be more conservative, and the result will be we don't give up the huge chunks of yards that we saw the last two years

01-22-2012, 02:20 PM	#18
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	As for WR we have Joe Morgan and Andy Tanner on the PS or IR. Even though Curtis Johnson is gone these two have some ability than can be developed quickly. If these guys step into a rotation or starting role we could afford to lose Colston. Although, it would hurt my heart. The reason I am off topic is Colston could want as much as 7 million. With that money we could upgrade our defense. We could also upgrade our defense by cutting Smith. Danno likes this.

01-22-2012, 02:24 PM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The reason I am off topic is Colston could want as much as 7 million. With that money we could upgrade our defense. Gongrats, you're the 1st I've heard bring up that point, and its a damn good one. Imagine the defender we could get with Colston money. The upgrade on defense would greatly outweigh the loss on offense, assuming we signed the defensive equivalent of a Marques Colston.

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