Williams and Spagnuolo: Similar, yet different

Danno · 01-21-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

My hope, too. I grew up a Steelers Fan and really got into football in the early 90's with Dom Capers calling defensive plays for guys like Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, and Rod Woodson.

Opposing offenses had to keep extra guys in to block all the time because they never knew when the blitz was coming. But since it DIDN'T come all the time, it was pretty tough to burn them on long pass-plays or even big runs.

And conversely, If you know the blitz is likely, you adjust your playcalling accordingly and you will beat it more often than not.

dizzle88 · 01-21-2012, 04:27 PM

I don't mind if spags needs to send 6 guys or so on a blitz at once, just with GW he did it literally every down, the only thing that changed is where they were coming from.
When GW did this its really easy to just pick up short gains underneath and if one person misses a tackle its a huge play for them.
With spags I'd like to think he could improve the fundamentals on our D line so we can start sending 4 man blitzes commonly, and catch them offguard with an overload blitz when they least expect it.
As long as it holds up in coverage, its fine with me

halloween 65 · 01-21-2012, 04:35 PM

We got to get 2 DT's from somewhere!!!! Oh, I'm looking forward to this...

FinSaint · 01-21-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

We got to get 2 DT's from somewhere!!!! Oh, I'm looking forward to this...

RailBoss · 01-21-2012, 05:07 PM

Jim Johnson was probably one of the best D coordinators in the game, he made Andy Reid's life easier for many years.

Euphoria · 01-21-2012, 05:37 PM

Spags is no GW!!!

Spags D plays sound heads up smart football. They make tackles their head is in the game and no what and where to be at all times.

GW 'make a play'. Even if you give up plays make one.

Spags DOES not blitz on every down. The percentage is way down.

hagan714 · 01-21-2012, 06:18 PM

big difference in blitz package will the use of LB blitz. spage will blitz LB

FinSaint · 01-21-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

big difference in blitz package will the use of LB blitz. spage will blitz LB

And as I've understood from what I've read and from what I can remember of the games I've seen with his defense in them... he rarely blitzes DBs, which makes Harper's role going forward a tricky one and who they hire as the new secondary coach even more significant.

hagan714 · 01-21-2012, 06:49 PM

Harper is on the bubble IMO more than any other player in the secondary. spags likes to have ball hawkers at safety. 2 hard hitting FS and he is a happy man

Rugby Saint II · 01-22-2012, 05:38 PM

GW blitzed right at 51% of the time. While Spags only blitzed about 33% of the time. Seems like Spags got it done with the front four.

01-21-2012, 04:25 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by W. Kovacs My hope, too. I grew up a Steelers Fan and really got into football in the early 90's with Dom Capers calling defensive plays for guys like Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, and Rod Woodson. Opposing offenses had to keep extra guys in to block all the time because they never knew when the blitz was coming. But since it DIDN'T come all the time, it was pretty tough to burn them on long pass-plays or even big runs. And conversely, If you know the blitz is likely, you adjust your playcalling accordingly and you will beat it more often than not.

01-21-2012, 04:27 PM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	I don't mind if spags needs to send 6 guys or so on a blitz at once, just with GW he did it literally every down, the only thing that changed is where they were coming from. When GW did this its really easy to just pick up short gains underneath and if one person misses a tackle its a huge play for them. With spags I'd like to think he could improve the fundamentals on our D line so we can start sending 4 man blitzes commonly, and catch them offguard with an overload blitz when they least expect it. As long as it holds up in coverage, its fine with me W. Kovacs likes this.
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01-21-2012, 04:42 PM	#14
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by halloween 65 We got to get 2 DT's from somewhere!!!! Oh, I'm looking forward to this... saintfan likes this.

01-21-2012, 06:35 PM	#18
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by hagan714 big difference in blitz package will the use of LB blitz. spage will blitz LB And as I've understood from what I've read and from what I can remember of the games I've seen with his defense in them... he rarely blitzes DBs, which makes Harper's role going forward a tricky one and who they hire as the new secondary coach even more significant. hagan714 likes this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Spags is no GW!!! Spags D plays sound heads up smart football. They make tackles their head is in the game and no what and where to be at all times. GW 'make a play'. Even if you give up plays make one. Spags DOES not blitz on every down. The percentage is way down.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	big difference in blitz package will the use of LB blitz. spage will blitz LB

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Harper is on the bubble IMO more than any other player in the secondary. spags likes to have ball hawkers at safety. 2 hard hitting FS and he is a happy man

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	GW blitzed right at 51% of the time. While Spags only blitzed about 33% of the time. Seems like Spags got it done with the front four.