Roman Harper to lb?

Mardigras9 · 01-26-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Why take a pro-bowl SS and try to move him to another position?

Lance Moore can't play TE anymore than Harper can play LB.

Agree with Danno here.

filaphill · 01-28-2012, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Why take a pro-bowl SS and try to move him to another position?

Lance Moore can't play TE anymore than Harper can play LB.

I`ve seen Harper shed a block from an O-Lineman if Moore can block out a LB or puts a good chip block on a DE then that may be a possibility.

jeanpierre · 01-22-2012, 08:31 AM

The only defense that Roman Harper could truly excel in and not be a liability because of his very poor coverage skills would be a 46 defense (Bears/Ryan)...

Problem is we don't have the lineman to make the whole thing work...

Harper is like having a Corvette that can pull a heavy trailer or can run offroad but can beat an eCar in the 1/4 mile...

Danno · 01-22-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The only defense that Roman Harper could truly excel in and not be a liability because of his very poor coverage skills would be a 46 defense (Bears/Ryan)...

Problem is we don't have the lineman to make the whole thing work...

Harper is like having a Corvette that can pull a heavy trailer or can run offroad but can beat an eCar in the 1/4 mile...

He wasn't a liability in this defense.

Euphoria · 01-22-2012, 09:07 AM

stupid move...

He was good because they would sneak him up to the line. He looked good because everyone sucked.

And when he is up at the line... our weakness... GIVING UP BIG PLAYS deep.

He is fine right wear he is just need retooling the D.

LBCutta · 01-22-2012, 10:36 AM

The best thing G.Williams did while he was here was make a very very average SS in Harper a Pro Bowler. Only reason Harper seems good is because we blitz 9999999999999999 times a game. Harper thrived in GW's schemes. Not sure he is a fit for Spags' defense.

LivnaLieTimay · 01-22-2012, 11:06 AM

Ever since we got Spags I've been trying to figure out how Harper fits into his system and I can't. Jenkins was a CB in college and a first round pick, I have to think that he can cover from the safety position with some coaching. Harper is a pro bowler because he blitzes and gets a lot of tackles for loss, not for his coverage skills. I don't think Spags uses safeties at the line a lot. I guess we'll wait and see, but I have confidence in the new DC to be able to evaluate our players and put guys in a position where they can succeed.

Rugby Saint II · 01-22-2012, 12:02 PM

Harper does just fine where he is. Would I like him to cover better? Yes. But he does seem to get better each year at coverage.

Speedy Ron · 01-22-2012, 03:52 PM

its so easy to say "bulk him up and move him" when in reality it affects alot of his play. put it this way...he could play weakside lb at his current weight better than Shanle... Just sayin...

he hits like he is 20-3o lbs heavier than he is.

Boutte · 01-22-2012, 08:50 PM

You guys do realize that Harper is 6ft 200 lbs right? That's 10-20 pounds less than most safeties. He makes tackles in the run game because LBs and DEs are taking on the blocks.

01-26-2012, 08:29 AM	#1
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Originally Posted by Danno Why take a pro-bowl SS and try to move him to another position? Lance Moore can't play TE anymore than Harper can play LB. Agree with Danno here.

01-28-2012, 01:49 PM	#2
filaphill Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 46	Originally Posted by Danno Why take a pro-bowl SS and try to move him to another position? Lance Moore can't play TE anymore than Harper can play LB. I`ve seen Harper shed a block from an O-Lineman if Moore can block out a LB or puts a good chip block on a DE then that may be a possibility.
filaphill Registered Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 46

01-22-2012, 08:35 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Originally Posted by jeanpierre The only defense that Roman Harper could truly excel in and not be a liability because of his very poor coverage skills would be a 46 defense (Bears/Ryan)... Problem is we don't have the lineman to make the whole thing work... Harper is like having a Corvette that can pull a heavy trailer or can run offroad but can beat an eCar in the 1/4 mile... He wasn't a liability in this defense.

01-22-2012, 03:52 PM	#9
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	its so easy to say "bulk him up and move him" when in reality it affects alot of his play. put it this way...he could play weakside lb at his current weight better than Shanle... Just sayin... he hits like he is 20-3o lbs heavier than he is. SapperSaint likes this.

01-22-2012, 08:50 PM	#10
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	You guys do realize that Harper is 6ft 200 lbs right? That's 10-20 pounds less than most safeties. He makes tackles in the run game because LBs and DEs are taking on the blocks. Halo likes this.

01-22-2012, 08:31 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	The only defense that Roman Harper could truly excel in and not be a liability because of his very poor coverage skills would be a 46 defense (Bears/Ryan)... Problem is we don't have the lineman to make the whole thing work... Harper is like having a Corvette that can pull a heavy trailer or can run offroad but can beat an eCar in the 1/4 mile...

01-22-2012, 09:07 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	stupid move... He was good because they would sneak him up to the line. He looked good because everyone sucked. And when he is up at the line... our weakness... GIVING UP BIG PLAYS deep. He is fine right wear he is just need retooling the D.

01-22-2012, 10:36 AM	#6
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	The best thing G.Williams did while he was here was make a very very average SS in Harper a Pro Bowler. Only reason Harper seems good is because we blitz 9999999999999999 times a game. Harper thrived in GW's schemes. Not sure he is a fit for Spags' defense.

01-22-2012, 11:06 AM	#7
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Ever since we got Spags I've been trying to figure out how Harper fits into his system and I can't. Jenkins was a CB in college and a first round pick, I have to think that he can cover from the safety position with some coaching. Harper is a pro bowler because he blitzes and gets a lot of tackles for loss, not for his coverage skills. I don't think Spags uses safeties at the line a lot. I guess we'll wait and see, but I have confidence in the new DC to be able to evaluate our players and put guys in a position where they can succeed.

01-22-2012, 12:02 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Harper does just fine where he is. Would I like him to cover better? Yes. But he does seem to get better each year at coverage.

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