Eli could land among the Giants

saintz08 · 03-22-2004, 10:49 AM

Eli Manning

The Chargers' private plane leaves San Diego today on a journey to meet quarterbacks Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers. By the time it returns to San Diego on Wednesday, there will be exactly one month to go before the draft.
The clock is running on the Giants to make a move on the No. 1 pick.

The talk around the NFL is that the Giants love Eli Manning, Peyton's kid brother. They sent a league-high five representatives to his recent workout in New Orleans.

At the No. 4 spot, the Giants are in point blank range to move up to get Manning with the slim possibility that he could actually fall to them, astounding when you consider the three teams ahead of them need QBs.

What would it take to move up? In 2001, San Diego traded the first overall pick to Atlanta instead of taking Michael Vick. In return, they got Atlanta's No. 1, fifth overall, which they turned into LaDainian Tomlinson; WR/KR Tim Dwight; a No. 3 pick in 2001 and No. 2 in 2002. If those are the parameters to get Manning, the Giants would be foolish not to act, especially if he's anywhere near as good as his brother.

It's all up to the Chargers, who need so much help they might be inclined to go for volume rather than a franchise quarterback to fix their problems. A trade could give them the opportunity to do both, if they like Roethlisberger or Rivers.

"Do I have a preliminary thought? Yes," Chargers GM A.J. Smith said. "No one knows what I am thinking. You keep it private until you make your selection."

Is Smith willing to listen to offers or is he content to sit at No. 1 and take the best player? "I'm wide open," he said. "Nothing has changed. We can stand pat and make the decision on who we like. If a phone call comes with a package of different picks and players, you decide. You don't know until they give you something to look at."

Smith, Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer, team president Dean Spanos and others will be on Spanos' plane today.

Here's the itinerary:

Tonight: Fly to North Carolina. Dinner with Rivers of North Carolina State.

Tomorrow: Attend Rivers' open workout. Fly to Ohio. Dinner with Roethlisberger of Miami (Ohio).

Tuesday: Attend private workout for Roethlisberger. Fly to New Orleans for dinner with Manning.

Wednesday: Attend private workout for Manning of Ole Miss. Fly home.
Manning is clearly the best QB in the draft. The Ryan Leaf experience still haunts the Chargers but the fans in San Diego need a spark to make them believe and that's Manning. But the Chargers are doing their homework with Roethlisberger and Rivers in the event of a tradedown.

Smith wants a QB, either a veteran or one acquired in the draft. He needs an upgrade over Drew Brees and Doug Flutie. The Redskins beat him to Mark Brunell. Kurt Warner could be available. Tim Couch, the overall No. 1 pick in '99, is available.

The Chargers' contingent already had dinner with Iowa tackle Robert Gallery. They met with Pitt WR Larry Fitzgerald at the combine and could drive up the freeway to Los Angeles to meet with USC WR Mike Williams. Trading David Boston creates the need for a wide receiver.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...p-152880c.html

Brooks and Stallworth , for the number 1 pick ??

BrooksMustGo · 03-22-2004, 10:55 AM

Brooks and Stallworth , for the number 1 pick ??

I\'d offer Brooks and Pathon first.

Or maybe offer Brooks and Horn for the Chargers first 2 picks? With Eli would catapult into the elite teams of the NFL.

WhoDat · 03-22-2004, 11:54 AM

You two aren\'t right in the head.

saintz08 · 03-22-2004, 01:43 PM

You two aren\'t right in the head.

I think some of us would like to see the offense open up into the Power West Coast offense that it could potentially be . Eli has the potential and fits the mold to open this offense up like never seen before in New Orleans .

I will forever be fascinated by the Haslett era Saints .

1. Get a quarterbacks coach to run a complex offensive scheme like a West Coast deviation .

2. Make the starting quarterback a player better suited for a power I formation offense and have him run the most complex offense in football when he scored a 17 on the wonderlic .

3. Practice the execution of the plays just not enough to get a penalty every 8 plays to really get things going backwards ....

BrooksMustGo · 03-22-2004, 04:20 PM

2. Make the starting quarterback a player better suited for a power I formation offense and have him run the most complex offense in football when he scored a 17 on the wonderlic .

And here I\'ve pegged him as more of a Run N Shoot kind of guy all this time...

saintz08 · 03-22-2004, 11:20 PM

Coughlin Fails to Name Collins His Starter

Mon Mar 22, 2004

AP reports Monday was the first time new New York Giants HC Tom Coughlin and QB Kerry Collins met, which took place during Coughlin\'s first talk to the team. The two had played phone tag since Coughlin was hired in January. Coughlin didn\'t say that Collins was his quarterback. \"I guess the best way I can answer is that I didn\'t get the feeling that he wasn\'t committed to me,\" Collins said. \"I wouldn\'t necessarily say that there was enough conversation to warrant any kind of feeling one way or the other. But certainly there wasn\'t anything negative in the conversation we had today.\"

03-22-2004, 10:49 AM	#1
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Eli could land among the Giants Eli Manning The Chargers' private plane leaves San Diego today on a journey to meet quarterbacks Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers. By the time it returns to San Diego on Wednesday, there will be exactly one month to go before the draft. The clock is running on the Giants to make a move on the No. 1 pick. The talk around the NFL is that the Giants love Eli Manning, Peyton's kid brother. They sent a league-high five representatives to his recent workout in New Orleans. At the No. 4 spot, the Giants are in point blank range to move up to get Manning with the slim possibility that he could actually fall to them, astounding when you consider the three teams ahead of them need QBs. What would it take to move up? In 2001, San Diego traded the first overall pick to Atlanta instead of taking Michael Vick. In return, they got Atlanta's No. 1, fifth overall, which they turned into LaDainian Tomlinson; WR/KR Tim Dwight; a No. 3 pick in 2001 and No. 2 in 2002. If those are the parameters to get Manning, the Giants would be foolish not to act, especially if he's anywhere near as good as his brother. It's all up to the Chargers, who need so much help they might be inclined to go for volume rather than a franchise quarterback to fix their problems. A trade could give them the opportunity to do both, if they like Roethlisberger or Rivers. "Do I have a preliminary thought? Yes," Chargers GM A.J. Smith said. "No one knows what I am thinking. You keep it private until you make your selection." Is Smith willing to listen to offers or is he content to sit at No. 1 and take the best player? "I'm wide open," he said. "Nothing has changed. We can stand pat and make the decision on who we like. If a phone call comes with a package of different picks and players, you decide. You don't know until they give you something to look at." Smith, Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer, team president Dean Spanos and others will be on Spanos' plane today. Here's the itinerary: Tonight: Fly to North Carolina. Dinner with Rivers of North Carolina State. Tomorrow: Attend Rivers' open workout. Fly to Ohio. Dinner with Roethlisberger of Miami (Ohio). Tuesday: Attend private workout for Roethlisberger. Fly to New Orleans for dinner with Manning. Wednesday: Attend private workout for Manning of Ole Miss. Fly home. Manning is clearly the best QB in the draft. The Ryan Leaf experience still haunts the Chargers but the fans in San Diego need a spark to make them believe and that's Manning. But the Chargers are doing their homework with Roethlisberger and Rivers in the event of a tradedown. Smith wants a QB, either a veteran or one acquired in the draft. He needs an upgrade over Drew Brees and Doug Flutie. The Redskins beat him to Mark Brunell. Kurt Warner could be available. Tim Couch, the overall No. 1 pick in '99, is available. The Chargers' contingent already had dinner with Iowa tackle Robert Gallery. They met with Pitt WR Larry Fitzgerald at the combine and could drive up the freeway to Los Angeles to meet with USC WR Mike Williams. Trading David Boston creates the need for a wide receiver. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...p-152880c.html Brooks and Stallworth , for the number 1 pick ??
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03-22-2004, 10:55 AM	#2
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Eli could land among the Giants Brooks and Stallworth , for the number 1 pick ?? I\'d offer Brooks and Pathon first. Or maybe offer Brooks and Horn for the Chargers first 2 picks? With Eli would catapult into the elite teams of the NFL.

03-22-2004, 11:54 AM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Eli could land among the Giants You two aren\'t right in the head.
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03-22-2004, 01:43 PM	#4
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Eli could land among the Giants You two aren\'t right in the head. I think some of us would like to see the offense open up into the Power West Coast offense that it could potentially be . Eli has the potential and fits the mold to open this offense up like never seen before in New Orleans . I will forever be fascinated by the Haslett era Saints . 1. Get a quarterbacks coach to run a complex offensive scheme like a West Coast deviation . 2. Make the starting quarterback a player better suited for a power I formation offense and have him run the most complex offense in football when he scored a 17 on the wonderlic . 3. Practice the execution of the plays just not enough to get a penalty every 8 plays to really get things going backwards ....
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

03-22-2004, 04:20 PM	#5
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Eli could land among the Giants 2. Make the starting quarterback a player better suited for a power I formation offense and have him run the most complex offense in football when he scored a 17 on the wonderlic . And here I\'ve pegged him as more of a Run N Shoot kind of guy all this time...

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03-22-2004, 11:20 PM	#6
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Eli could land among the Giants Coughlin Fails to Name Collins His Starter Mon Mar 22, 2004 AP reports Monday was the first time new New York Giants HC Tom Coughlin and QB Kerry Collins met, which took place during Coughlin\'s first talk to the team. The two had played phone tag since Coughlin was hired in January. Coughlin didn\'t say that Collins was his quarterback. \"I guess the best way I can answer is that I didn\'t get the feeling that he wasn\'t committed to me,\" Collins said. \"I wouldn\'t necessarily say that there was enough conversation to warrant any kind of feeling one way or the other. But certainly there wasn\'t anything negative in the conversation we had today.\"
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo