Re-signing Brees, Colston & Nicks could cost pricey veterans their jobs

NOS2SB · 01-25-2012, 03:56 AM

Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players?

Saint_LB · 01-25-2012, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players?

I don't. Unless I heard it wrong...I was listening to an 8 + minute interview on WWL am 870 and he was going on about how the NFL was a business and how you hated to see fellow teammates and friends move-on, but emphasized that this was part of the business and he couldn't let his emotions affect his business dealings...or words to that effect.

Everybody knows that I have always been leary of his inner intentions...and I hope I misinterpreted what I heard...but in a way...I agree with him. He can't worry that they might not be able to sign everyone if he makes too much...he has to protect his own and his family's interest.

I have been very hard on him regarding this topic but I do believe that his ego will win out in the end. He wants to be the highest paid player and by all rights he deserves to be, but if he is the highest paid player after this is all over, there is no way that Loomis can bring everybody else back, IMO.

jcp026 · 01-25-2012, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I don't. Unless I heard it wrong...I was listening to an 8 + minute interview on WWL am 870 and he was going on about how the NFL was a business and how you hated to see fellow teammates and friends move-on, but emphasized that this was part of the business and he couldn't let his emotions affect his business dealings...or words to that effect.

Everybody knows that I have always been leary of his inner intentions...and I hope I misinterpreted what I heard...but in a way...I agree with him. He can't worry that they might not be able to sign everyone if he makes too much...he has to protect his own and his family's interest.

I have been very hard on him regarding this topic but I do believe that his ego will win out in the end. He wants to be the highest paid player and by all rights he deserves to be, but if he is the highest paid player after this is all over, there is no way that Loomis can bring everybody else back, IMO.

Will his ego win out in regards to wanting to be the highest paid player or will it win out in regards to wanting to win Super Bowls and be one of the greatest ever?

NOS2SB · 01-25-2012, 08:38 AM

I tend to agree, but after you have 50 million, what's another 10? Would you be less happier in life if you were 10 million short? I know I wouldn't.

dizzle88 · 01-25-2012, 10:44 AM

It will be interesting to see what happens to Tracy Porter

First year with GW - Porter and Greer combined only allowed one TD pass against them - Roddy white pushing greer to the ground on obvious offensive PI

Since then... Porter has not been aggressive, he never fights for the ball, he struggles in one on one coverage which is very strange because he was awesome in 2009 at that.

Will be interesting to see if he could excel in Spags D, but Porters also scared to tackle, Spags wants tough, hard nosed, sit you on the ground kind of D.
If Tracy doesn't show he's willing to play that way, Pat Robinson is a good replacement, Plus Johnny Patrick showed us something late in the season - solid tackler

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-25-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players?

He should not. While Brees' first contract with the Saints was a shared gamble, based on 6 years of production it was greatly undervalued. Brees' money should be, and must be in the low $20 million range. It's pay that matches his standing as hte premiere QB in the game. The only way it should be under $20 a year is if the total contract exceeds $120 million.

Bottom line the Saints will need to make some choices. As painful as it will be, the team probably cannot and will not pay Colston what he's worth. Colston has already given the team the hometown discount on his 2nd contract, and there's probably not going to be a 4th contract for him. So he also needs to secure his $12-15 million/year contract this time. But for those dollars it won't be with the Saints. The receiver corps will just have to have the next man step up.

Nicks needs to be resigned at all costs, even if that means matching Evans' contract.

It's going to be a tough offseason. I'm just hoping that it doesn't get so tough that Loomis feels obligated to franchise Brees in order to get his costs down. While it may be good for the bottom line, it'll be terrible for morale.

SFIAH

RockyMountainSaint · 01-25-2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players?

Brees: "My No. 1 Priority is Keeping Our Team Together"

01-25-2012, 05:56 AM	#2
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by NOS2SB Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players? I don't. Unless I heard it wrong...I was listening to an 8 + minute interview on WWL am 870 and he was going on about how the NFL was a business and how you hated to see fellow teammates and friends move-on, but emphasized that this was part of the business and he couldn't let his emotions affect his business dealings...or words to that effect. Everybody knows that I have always been leary of his inner intentions...and I hope I misinterpreted what I heard...but in a way...I agree with him. He can't worry that they might not be able to sign everyone if he makes too much...he has to protect his own and his family's interest. I have been very hard on him regarding this topic but I do believe that his ego will win out in the end. He wants to be the highest paid player and by all rights he deserves to be, but if he is the highest paid player after this is all over, there is no way that Loomis can bring everybody else back, IMO.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right! Last edited by Saint_LB; 01-25-2012 at 06:02 AM..

01-25-2012, 08:31 AM	#3
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 953	Originally Posted by Saint_LB I don't. Unless I heard it wrong...I was listening to an 8 + minute interview on WWL am 870 and he was going on about how the NFL was a business and how you hated to see fellow teammates and friends move-on, but emphasized that this was part of the business and he couldn't let his emotions affect his business dealings...or words to that effect. Everybody knows that I have always been leary of his inner intentions...and I hope I misinterpreted what I heard...but in a way...I agree with him. He can't worry that they might not be able to sign everyone if he makes too much...he has to protect his own and his family's interest. I have been very hard on him regarding this topic but I do believe that his ego will win out in the end. He wants to be the highest paid player and by all rights he deserves to be, but if he is the highest paid player after this is all over, there is no way that Loomis can bring everybody else back, IMO. Will his ego win out in regards to wanting to be the highest paid player or will it win out in regards to wanting to win Super Bowls and be one of the greatest ever?
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01-25-2012, 10:44 AM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	It will be interesting to see what happens to Tracy Porter First year with GW - Porter and Greer combined only allowed one TD pass against them - Roddy white pushing greer to the ground on obvious offensive PI Since then... Porter has not been aggressive, he never fights for the ball, he struggles in one on one coverage which is very strange because he was awesome in 2009 at that. Will be interesting to see if he could excel in Spags D, but Porters also scared to tackle, Spags wants tough, hard nosed, sit you on the ground kind of D. If Tracy doesn't show he's willing to play that way, Pat Robinson is a good replacement, Plus Johnny Patrick showed us something late in the season - solid tackler
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01-25-2012, 03:27 PM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by NOS2SB Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players? He should not. While Brees' first contract with the Saints was a shared gamble, based on 6 years of production it was greatly undervalued. Brees' money should be, and must be in the low $20 million range. It's pay that matches his standing as hte premiere QB in the game. The only way it should be under $20 a year is if the total contract exceeds $120 million. Bottom line the Saints will need to make some choices. As painful as it will be, the team probably cannot and will not pay Colston what he's worth. Colston has already given the team the hometown discount on his 2nd contract, and there's probably not going to be a 4th contract for him. So he also needs to secure his $12-15 million/year contract this time. But for those dollars it won't be with the Saints. The receiver corps will just have to have the next man step up. Nicks needs to be resigned at all costs, even if that means matching Evans' contract. It's going to be a tough offseason. I'm just hoping that it doesn't get so tough that Loomis feels obligated to franchise Brees in order to get his costs down. While it may be good for the bottom line, it'll be terrible for morale. SFIAH SapperSaint likes this.
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01-25-2012, 05:55 PM	#7
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by NOS2SB Does anyone think that Brees will take a cut in order to keep other players? Brees: "My No. 1 Priority is Keeping Our Team Together" Halo and SapperSaint like this.

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NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	I tend to agree, but after you have 50 million, what's another 10? Would you be less happier in life if you were 10 million short? I know I wouldn't.

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