Shanle

The Dude · 01-30-2012, 07:22 PM

After seeing all the hate on multiple forums on this guy, I am wondering if he is getting a bad wrap. Obviously the coaching staff is high on this guy or he would not be here. I have read multiple articles where even players of other teams give him props. He has even been recognized by some members of the media as a talent. Where does all this hate come from? Obviously some of you see something in him that warrants him being blamed, but I am wondering if he has been forced to compensate for other players inadiquities which makes him a good scapegoat.

Speedy Ron · 01-30-2012, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

After seeing all the hate on multiple forums on this guy, I am wondering if he is getting a bad wrap. Obviously the coaching staff is high on this guy or he would not be here. I have read multiple articles where even players of other teams give him props. He has even been recognized by some members of the media as a talent. Where does all this hate come from? Obviously some of you see something in him that warrants him being blamed, but I am wondering if he has been forced to compensate for other players inadiquities which makes him a good scapegoat.

saintsfan1976 · 01-30-2012, 08:53 PM

Salary cap starter. Every team has em.

st thomas · 01-30-2012, 09:03 PM

i don't hate the guy he's just a tadd late on plays or out of place. evidently he's the best we have till someoe proves they belong in front of him. no hate from here. we will see if the new coordinater sees what gw saw or hes done in sainthood.

Euphoria · 01-30-2012, 09:07 PM

Well the coach who is big on him isn't here anymore!!! That should be the first clue. Second he may no longer be here shortly... stand by on that one.

Beastmode · 01-30-2012, 09:49 PM

In his prime he was decent. His age however is starting to show. Like st thomas stated, he has been not only out of place on plays, but clearly getting beat. The one pick he had he was beat on the play pretty bad but the ball magically dropped in his hands after he got there. I give him credit though, he was a walk on in college so a lot of who he is has been all heart, desire...whatever you want to call it. Just don't call it physical attributes.

jnormand · 01-30-2012, 09:57 PM

I don't hate him either. I just want a LB core that wants to kill the offense....actually...I want an entire defensive front 7 that want to kill the offense.

QBREES9 · 01-31-2012, 12:24 AM

We're fans, we don't know what goes on. If the coaches like him they know more then we do. We're fans, so we get to say what ever we want. Coach Payton and his staff know a hell'va lot more then we do. Other wise we would be coaching.

Shanle. He must be doing what they ask of him.

Belair57 · 01-31-2012, 12:54 AM

he came from dallas with SP didnt he?? then SP might be the one telling the coaching staff to keep him around, I dont see any other reason.

halloween 65 · 01-31-2012, 02:05 AM

He's solid. Starts every game, never misses a game due to injury, plays run well, tackles well. The knock on him is his speed and cover skills, although if you watch film on him, he blitzes well and actually has good closing speed on a qb. thats not Mike Vick like. His initial turn in coverage or first step is his trouble. If he was in a 3/4 D I personally think that would fit him perfect, still not bad in a 4/3 set. I also think he was ask to do to much in G. Williams system and he was not the only one.

01-30-2012, 07:22 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Shanle After seeing all the hate on multiple forums on this guy, I am wondering if he is getting a bad wrap. Obviously the coaching staff is high on this guy or he would not be here. I have read multiple articles where even players of other teams give him props. He has even been recognized by some members of the media as a talent. Where does all this hate come from? Obviously some of you see something in him that warrants him being blamed, but I am wondering if he has been forced to compensate for other players inadiquities which makes him a good scapegoat. Boutte likes this.
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01-30-2012, 08:40 PM	#2
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Originally Posted by The Dude After seeing all the hate on multiple forums on this guy, I am wondering if he is getting a bad wrap. Obviously the coaching staff is high on this guy or he would not be here. I have read multiple articles where even players of other teams give him props. He has even been recognized by some members of the media as a talent. Where does all this hate come from? Obviously some of you see something in him that warrants him being blamed, but I am wondering if he has been forced to compensate for other players inadiquities which makes him a good scapegoat. 73Saint, st thomas, FinSaint and 1 others like this.

01-30-2012, 09:49 PM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	In his prime he was decent. His age however is starting to show. Like st thomas stated, he has been not only out of place on plays, but clearly getting beat. The one pick he had he was beat on the play pretty bad but the ball magically dropped in his hands after he got there. I give him credit though, he was a walk on in college so a lot of who he is has been all heart, desire...whatever you want to call it. Just don't call it physical attributes.
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Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	he came from dallas with SP didnt he?? then SP might be the one telling the coaching staff to keep him around, I dont see any other reason.
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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	i don't hate the guy he's just a tadd late on plays or out of place. evidently he's the best we have till someoe proves they belong in front of him. no hate from here. we will see if the new coordinater sees what gw saw or hes done in sainthood.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Well the coach who is big on him isn't here anymore!!! That should be the first clue. Second he may no longer be here shortly... stand by on that one.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,655	I don't hate him either. I just want a LB core that wants to kill the offense....actually...I want an entire defensive front 7 that want to kill the offense.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	We're fans, we don't know what goes on. If the coaches like him they know more then we do. We're fans, so we get to say what ever we want. Coach Payton and his staff know a hell'va lot more then we do. Other wise we would be coaching. Shanle. He must be doing what they ask of him.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	He's solid. Starts every game, never misses a game due to injury, plays run well, tackles well. The knock on him is his speed and cover skills, although if you watch film on him, he blitzes well and actually has good closing speed on a qb. thats not Mike Vick like. His initial turn in coverage or first step is his trouble. If he was in a 3/4 D I personally think that would fit him perfect, still not bad in a 4/3 set. I also think he was ask to do to much in G. Williams system and he was not the only one.