One thing I think a lot of fans are missing in regards to salary cap and signing our FA's
 

We don't have a first round pick. That in itself will free up a bunch of money. I think Loomis will find a way to creatively sign the big three and add some GOOD talent on defense. In Loomis I trust.

I think whatever happens in will be in the best interest of the team. I know players want to get paid but I would think that a competitive spirit would come into play. Forget loyalty to city, fans and team. None of that pays the bills. I would think that a player would want to be on a team that gives him the best place to shine as a player (HOF reasons) and a place where he will win a championship(s).

Or is my thinking way out in left field?

Without personal glory it's all just a job + bone-jarring hits.

Spot-on, Sapper.

Alaska

A late 1st round pick is just over league minimum now.

Ingram only counted for $472,000 against the cap in 2011.

That pick is not a lot of money as stated by Danno. We need to let go of quite a few of our defensive players and go out and get some proven defenders across the board all phases of our defense needs help and an idenity. Everyone puts up big numbers against us. Tired of hearing we work with what we got crap is plain BS. The only way we can afford to do that is try and trade or just do not resign these guys period and spend the money somewhere else. Ellis for one needs to go,Rogers needs to go, Harper needs a position change or he needs to go, Our best linebacker needs to go (Bad knees and age has slowed him down the last two seasons). He is on the way out. Move Jenkins to corner he is not a free safety. Consider letting Smith go or trade. Has he really produced like a first round pick? Jordan is a maybe or wanabe and there are others I failed to mention. Face it we need a major overhaul here or it will be more of the same.

Like Danno stated in another thread, it's not like the FO can just tear up contracts and send guys who have not performed up to their salaries packing.

It would be fairly expensive to release some of these guys with big contracts, and even more so if they can't find another team to play for. Ellis for example is someone the Saints would have much difficulty in trading to another team, and with only 1 more year left in his contract - it might be economically sound to just have him play out that last year and hope that he will have a career year in a contract year.

Smith and Vilma are different cases entirely, because they both have 2 years remaining on their contracts (since Smith's last year is voidable), so if the FO can't find a way to restructure their deals - they might just have to bite the bullet and release them.

And mind you, I'm not nearly as confident as many here on these boards are that Vilma is done. It all depends on how he'll rehab from his injuries/surgeries, and in the best case scenario he might live up to his big contract for those remaining two years. It's just too early to say, and we don't have the information needed to make an informed estimation about his future potential or fit in what Spags wants to do going forward.

I would give Jordan a pass, that was his first year. Harper hopefully fits in the new DC's scheme, Jenkins should do better in this scheme, Smith either takes back-up money or he can go, Rodgers will be gone, and Vilma and Ellis should be, way to much money for their pi$$ poor production. I say Jenkins should do better but at the same time he is my wildcard out of everyone, although I want give him a pass if he plays that bad this year, he is not a corner, to slow.

I like the outside the box thinking, but I disagree completely with every single one of them.

I disagree with all but the old linebacker point. I think it is probably time to revamp at MLB.

IMO that totally depends on the health of Vilma.

If he's recovered, he's a keeper and he's our best LB.

If he's still too hurt to play at 100% then yeah, we need to start looking elsewhere.

we all know we need the base of this defense to have any chance of a superbowl in 12. who the base is well thats what spags needs to figure who stays who trades and who gets wacked. there has to be change we all agree.

The things that people don't think about regarding Vilma are his leadership ability and his ability to read D's. We could get more physical LB's but i think his leadership is important.

Subguy, I agree.

Look at what Ryan Clark does for the Steelers. Troy Polamalu is a far superior Safety but without Clark back there calling plays the defense is out of position.

Of course, another player could do that but think of him as a coach that's on the field. With all new coaches on the sideline he could be an important intermediary for the remaining players.

Opponents are going to wonder if we have had a face lift along the defensive front seven.

cuts cost

just going to let the front office and the new DC work this out. Then I'll voice my opinion.
(it's easier to be the arm chair qb, hc, dc,) :)