You be spags, fix our defense!!!!

SapperSaint · 02-03-2012, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Cut the dead weight, get a few free agents fimiliar with his system, draft 2 DT's and a LB.

I like this. But... I would draft two DE and a LB. Pick up a BPA at DT in FA. I like the 4 DE front line scheme. Not an every down scheme, but very effective when G's and T's are used to just pushing and shoving, then they get in front of a manipulating DE.

Tackling has got to be a number one priority. NOT STRIPPING THE BALL! "Love Taps" don't cut it in the NFL. Bring in John Lynch and teach our Safeties how to hit. Safeties need to be the guys who deliver bone crushing hits.

Bring in Deion for Training Camp to teach our CB's how to play the position.

I would train the defense as if they were learning it from day 1. Our guys need to unlearn what they have learned, while under G.W.

halloween 65 · 02-03-2012, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I like this. But... I would draft two DE and a LB. Pick up a BPA at DT in FA. I like the 4 DE front line scheme. Not an every down scheme, but very effective when G's and T's are used to just pushing and shoving, then they get in front of a manipulating DE.

Tackling has got to be a number one priority. NOT STRIPPING THE BALL! "Love Taps" don't cut it in the NFL. Bring in John Lynch and teach our Safeties how to hit. Safeties need to be the guys who deliver bone crushing hits.

Bring in Deion for Training Camp to teach our CB's how to play the position.

I would train the defense as if they were learning it from day 1. Our guys need to unlearn what they have learned, while under G.W.

I can see what your seeing about the DE's but the push up the middle has stunk for a few years , my thinking is with 2 DT's pushing the pocket it should make our speed rushers much, much better and with Romeus in the mix this year I think we are set at DE, now Avril would be nice but I don't think we have a chance at him. A MLB or OLB I could definatly see in FA or the draft. But the MLB needs to have some weight and speed, a thumper so to speak. I just want up-grades at these positions, not what we have now.

Speedy Ron · 02-04-2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I can see what your seeing about the DE's but the push up the middle has stunk for a few years , my thinking is with 2 DT's pushing the pocket it should make our speed rushers much, much better and with Romeus in the mix this year I think we are set at DE, now Avril would be nice but I don't think we have a chance at him. A MLB or OLB I could definatly see in FA or the draft. But the MLB needs to have some weight and speed, a thumper so to speak. I just want up-grades at these positions, not what we have now.

no offense, but what has romeus shown you that excites you? he was hurt all college, hurt rookie season.

halloween 65 · 02-04-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

no offense, but what has romeus shown you that excites you? he was hurt all college, hurt rookie season.

I just think they see something in this guy otherwise he would have been cut or taken an injury settlement. I think he starts right away or by game 4, he was great in college.

RockyMountainSaint · 02-04-2012, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I just think they see something in this guy otherwise he would have been cut or taken an injury settlement. I think he starts right away or by game 4, he was great in college.

I was at most of the open camp practices.

Day 1 he was gingerly going through the rehab drills.

At the end he was very aggressive and the athleticism was obvious.

I don't know anything about his football I.Q. but the dude is a talent.

I am very hopeful.

Speedy Ron · 02-05-2012, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I just think they see something in this guy otherwise he would have been cut or taken an injury settlement. I think he starts right away or by game 4, he was great in college.

i hope your right. we need a DE so bad. i am still not crazy about the cam jordan pick. the whole "hes not a pass rusher but great against the run" thing just kills me. it might just be the talking heads incorrect analysis of the guy but to me its a waisted pick. who wants a de that cant rush the passer in a pass happy league. id rather have picked ingram and kept the first round pick this year. who know maybe we can retain nicks and colston since we dont have to pay a first rounder.

jcp026 · 02-05-2012, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

i hope your right. we need a DE so bad. i am still not crazy about the cam jordan pick. the whole "hes not a pass rusher but great against the run" thing just kills me. it might just be the talking heads incorrect analysis of the guy but to me its a waisted pick. who wants a de that cant rush the passer in a pass happy league. id rather have picked ingram and kept the first round pick this year. who know maybe we can retain nicks and colston since we dont have to pay a first rounder.

I'd rather have picked Jordan and then traded out of the second and picked DeMarco Murray. That is, of course, in hindsight. I didn't want to draft a running back at all. All defense for me.

02-03-2012, 02:46 PM	#1
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by halloween 65 Cut the dead weight, get a few free agents fimiliar with his system, draft 2 DT's and a LB. I like this. But... I would draft two DE and a LB. Pick up a BPA at DT in FA. I like the 4 DE front line scheme. Not an every down scheme, but very effective when G's and T's are used to just pushing and shoving, then they get in front of a manipulating DE. Tackling has got to be a number one priority. NOT STRIPPING THE BALL! "Love Taps" don't cut it in the NFL. Bring in John Lynch and teach our Safeties how to hit. Safeties need to be the guys who deliver bone crushing hits. Bring in Deion for Training Camp to teach our CB's how to play the position. I would train the defense as if they were learning it from day 1. Our guys need to unlearn what they have learned, while under G.W.
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02-03-2012, 05:23 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by SapperSaint I like this. But... I would draft two DE and a LB. Pick up a BPA at DT in FA. I like the 4 DE front line scheme. Not an every down scheme, but very effective when G's and T's are used to just pushing and shoving, then they get in front of a manipulating DE. Tackling has got to be a number one priority. NOT STRIPPING THE BALL! "Love Taps" don't cut it in the NFL. Bring in John Lynch and teach our Safeties how to hit. Safeties need to be the guys who deliver bone crushing hits. Bring in Deion for Training Camp to teach our CB's how to play the position. I would train the defense as if they were learning it from day 1. Our guys need to unlearn what they have learned, while under G.W. I can see what your seeing about the DE's but the push up the middle has stunk for a few years , my thinking is with 2 DT's pushing the pocket it should make our speed rushers much, much better and with Romeus in the mix this year I think we are set at DE, now Avril would be nice but I don't think we have a chance at him. A MLB or OLB I could definatly see in FA or the draft. But the MLB needs to have some weight and speed, a thumper so to speak. I just want up-grades at these positions, not what we have now.

02-04-2012, 03:11 PM	#3
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Originally Posted by halloween 65 I can see what your seeing about the DE's but the push up the middle has stunk for a few years , my thinking is with 2 DT's pushing the pocket it should make our speed rushers much, much better and with Romeus in the mix this year I think we are set at DE, now Avril would be nice but I don't think we have a chance at him. A MLB or OLB I could definatly see in FA or the draft. But the MLB needs to have some weight and speed, a thumper so to speak. I just want up-grades at these positions, not what we have now. no offense, but what has romeus shown you that excites you? he was hurt all college, hurt rookie season.

02-04-2012, 04:07 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by Speedy Ron no offense, but what has romeus shown you that excites you? he was hurt all college, hurt rookie season. I just think they see something in this guy otherwise he would have been cut or taken an injury settlement. I think he starts right away or by game 4, he was great in college.

02-04-2012, 08:47 PM	#5
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by halloween 65 I just think they see something in this guy otherwise he would have been cut or taken an injury settlement. I think he starts right away or by game 4, he was great in college. I was at most of the open camp practices. Day 1 he was gingerly going through the rehab drills. At the end he was very aggressive and the athleticism was obvious. I don't know anything about his football I.Q. but the dude is a talent. I am very hopeful. UK_WhoDat likes this.

02-05-2012, 04:09 PM	#6
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Originally Posted by halloween 65 I just think they see something in this guy otherwise he would have been cut or taken an injury settlement. I think he starts right away or by game 4, he was great in college. i hope your right. we need a DE so bad. i am still not crazy about the cam jordan pick. the whole "hes not a pass rusher but great against the run" thing just kills me. it might just be the talking heads incorrect analysis of the guy but to me its a waisted pick. who wants a de that cant rush the passer in a pass happy league. id rather have picked ingram and kept the first round pick this year. who know maybe we can retain nicks and colston since we dont have to pay a first rounder.

02-05-2012, 04:18 PM	#7
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 953	Originally Posted by Speedy Ron i hope your right. we need a DE so bad. i am still not crazy about the cam jordan pick. the whole "hes not a pass rusher but great against the run" thing just kills me. it might just be the talking heads incorrect analysis of the guy but to me its a waisted pick. who wants a de that cant rush the passer in a pass happy league. id rather have picked ingram and kept the first round pick this year. who know maybe we can retain nicks and colston since we dont have to pay a first rounder. I'd rather have picked Jordan and then traded out of the second and picked DeMarco Murray. That is, of course, in hindsight. I didn't want to draft a running back at all. All defense for me.
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