Aaron Rogers MVP

saintfan · 02-06-2012, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Just one reason, and my point was that the interception stat is every bit as valid as saying since some back-up came in and did great that the starter is over-rated.

Since Flynn scored 45 on the Lions, and Brees scored 45 on the Lions, does Flynn = Brees?

C'mon guys, Rodgers deserved it.

He didn't deserve it any more than Brees, and history will prove that I believe. It's a media darling award anyway Danno. It has little if anything to do with who is 'most valuable', because Drew would already have won it twice if that were the case.

You gonna tell me that, with the year(s) he had, if Drew played for Dallas, NY Giants, NY Jets, etc that he wouldn't be the MVP this year?

It isn't whether or not Rodgers deserved it, it's whether or not he deserved it more than Drew. I say no. I guess we just have to disagree.

nicebush25 · 02-06-2012, 04:27 PM

Eli or Brady were better options if it cant be brees. there teams would tank without them

saintfan · 02-06-2012, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by nicebush25

Eli or Brady were better options if it cant be brees. there teams would tank without them

Or Stafford. Or Smith. Or Newton. Or whatshisname from the Bengals. Or Big Ben.

If it's the "guy who won the most stats categories" award or the "guy who threw the least ints" award or "the QB on the team with the best record" award or whatever, okay. No way he was more valuable to GB than Drew was to N.O.

Shaw...

Halo · 02-06-2012, 05:42 PM

I thought it was a longshot for Drew anyway. Didn't they do some exit polls months back with a sample of media and Aaron was overwhelmingly the MVP based on the sample?

I mean.... it's all subjective. I want to win the SB next season. I'll gladly skip the MVP if we can accomplish that.

SapperSaint · 02-06-2012, 09:29 PM

This award is a "Who's the media darling".

From preseason, the media has been all about Arron Rodgers. I for one don't think Rodgers is better than Drew. Drew's "Con vs Pro" was the loss to ST Louis. If he wins that game and beats San Fran; this is a whole different thread.

Boutte · 02-07-2012, 09:20 PM

Offensive player of the Year is a better award anyway. There's no ambiguous BS involved.

Who the hell cares about an award if nobody can even agree to what it means?

Dasidreidia · 02-08-2012, 07:16 PM

The reason given from everyone who revealed their vote was that they gave it to Rodgers solely because he had a higher passer rating and nothing else.

That is why I'm pissed about this, because they found an excuse to not give it to Brees. I don't doubt that Rodgers deserved it, but their justification is what infuriates me. On the flip side, the Offensive Player of the year voting was almost the exact opposite of the MVP voting. Rodgers only had 7 votes in that one. Almost like they agreed to give one to one player and one to the other.

FinSaint · 02-08-2012, 07:40 PM

And the whole passer rating system is flawed and the most unrepresentative out of the standard QB stats.

gandhi1007 · 02-11-2012, 09:06 PM

Well.....I'm going to say this & I'll leave it alone. This year's MVP snub of Drew Brees is every bit as bad as baseball's 1939 AL MVP contest when Dimaggio was crowned MVP over Ted Williams when Williams was superior in nearly every category. It's a popularity contest & a sham. By the way....Williams hit .406 that year.

02-06-2012, 05:23 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno Just one reason, and my point was that the interception stat is every bit as valid as saying since some back-up came in and did great that the starter is over-rated. Since Flynn scored 45 on the Lions, and Brees scored 45 on the Lions, does Flynn = Brees? C'mon guys, Rodgers deserved it. He didn't deserve it any more than Brees, and history will prove that I believe. It's a media darling award anyway Danno. It has little if anything to do with who is 'most valuable', because Drew would already have won it twice if that were the case. You gonna tell me that, with the year(s) he had, if Drew played for Dallas, NY Giants, NY Jets, etc that he wouldn't be the MVP this year? It isn't whether or not Rodgers deserved it, it's whether or not he deserved it more than Drew. I say no. I guess we just have to disagree.
	C'mon Man...

02-06-2012, 04:35 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by nicebush25 Eli or Brady were better options if it cant be brees. there teams would tank without them Or Stafford. Or Smith. Or Newton. Or whatshisname from the Bengals. Or Big Ben. If it's the "guy who won the most stats categories" award or the "guy who threw the least ints" award or "the QB on the team with the best record" award or whatever, okay. No way he was more valuable to GB than Drew was to N.O. Shaw... SapperSaint likes this.

02-07-2012, 09:20 PM	#6
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Offensive player of the Year is a better award anyway. There's no ambiguous BS involved. Who the hell cares about an award if nobody can even agree to what it means? Danno likes this.

02-08-2012, 07:16 PM	#7
Dasidreidia 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte (Kill me), but born in Gretna. Posts: 721	The reason given from everyone who revealed their vote was that they gave it to Rodgers solely because he had a higher passer rating and nothing else. That is why I'm pissed about this, because they found an excuse to not give it to Brees. I don't doubt that Rodgers deserved it, but their justification is what infuriates me. On the flip side, the Offensive Player of the year voting was almost the exact opposite of the MVP voting. Rodgers only had 7 votes in that one. Almost like they agreed to give one to one player and one to the other.
	Saints fan since he watched them play from his crib. "THIS! IS! NEW ORLEANS!!!" -Drew Brees, 2008 season

02-08-2012, 07:40 PM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	And the whole passer rating system is flawed and the most unrepresentative out of the standard QB stats. saintfan, Boutte and gandhi1007 like this.

02-06-2012, 04:27 PM	#2
nicebush25 lightly scented Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 142	Eli or Brady were better options if it cant be brees. there teams would tank without them

02-06-2012, 05:42 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	I thought it was a longshot for Drew anyway. Didn't they do some exit polls months back with a sample of media and Aaron was overwhelmingly the MVP based on the sample? I mean.... it's all subjective. I want to win the SB next season. I'll gladly skip the MVP if we can accomplish that.

02-06-2012, 09:29 PM	#5
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	This award is a "Who's the media darling". From preseason, the media has been all about Arron Rodgers. I for one don't think Rodgers is better than Drew. Drew's "Con vs Pro" was the loss to ST Louis. If he wins that game and beats San Fran; this is a whole different thread.

02-11-2012, 09:06 PM	#9
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Well.....I'm going to say this & I'll leave it alone. This year's MVP snub of Drew Brees is every bit as bad as baseball's 1939 AL MVP contest when Dimaggio was crowned MVP over Ted Williams when Williams was superior in nearly every category. It's a popularity contest & a sham. By the way....Williams hit .406 that year. saintfan likes this.

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