Aaron Rogers MVP
 

Damn you A.Rodgers,DAMN YOU!:bng:

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All those voters so busy sucking, I mean loving Rodgers, that Brees was once again denied:( oh well, Brees will ALWAYS be my MVP!!!

Im gonna get flamed but I try to view football as non biased as possible. Aaron Rodgers deserved this award. He had a better passer rating, less interceptions, and also broke the NFL all time record for passer rating. He led his team to more victories with the 27th or so ranked defense and no running game. We as a team were MUCH more balanced. You removed both QBs and we win more games than Green Bay. Rodgers made his team look a lot better than they actually are. Brees is a better QB, but Rodgers did it this year.

It hurts but you are right. We were the best TEAM of all the playoffs teams and should´ve won it all...

Yep we were the best team in the NFL, 49ers just caught us on a fluke day.

Straight up bullsh*t. Just like Cam Newton winning rookie of the year. Really?

Just because we hate these guys and their respective teams does not mean they all suck. Who else would you put as ROY?

AJ Green, Dalton were nice. But Newton clearly was the best Rookie!

Von Miller was also a nice pickup by the Broncos.

Well, they looked pretty good with Flynn under center in the last game of the season - much better than I would think that the Saints would look with Daniel as the QB.

The passer rating is not in my mind that valid of a factor to base these types of decisions on, and if you think about the interceptions, you should try to compare the comparative strengths of the secondaries both QBs faced and the number of passes they made during the season.

None of that really matters, but in my mind, Drew Brees is much more valuable to the Saints' franchise than Rodgers is to the GB franchise - on and off the field.

Note to Brees: If you want to win awards take sacks a plenty and start running more, 4-5 times a game. Forget about all that throwing nonsense.

Two of the top 3 QB's and two of the top 3 teams are watching the SuperBowl from the couch.

Damn, shoulda coulda woulda deja vu all over again.

Had zero issues with Rodgers winning the award as it was well deserving. What I had a problem with was the 2 votes Brees got... 2 frickin' votes.

Rogers is a douchenozzle.

Everybody that voted for Rodgers is a douchenozzle.

whats funny to me is that Brees gets Offensive player of the year award but both players are offensive. i would understand if they were on different sides of the ball or at least different positions...it makes no sense to me

Well, it is the "Most Valuable Player," so it doesn't necessarily mean that he was the best at his position, but that he was relatively the most valuable player to his particular team - and that is why I don't think Rodgers was the right pick.

That is the logic of sportswriters...

Look how the BBWAA refuses to retract their NL MVP award of Ryan Braun who is currently appealing a suspension for being juiced...

Actually, if you examine how the Colts collapsed without Peyton Manning, that validates his MVP awards...

Yes, I completely agree with you on that.

It was Drew's higher turnover count and not converting that fourth and goal in Green Bay that decided it...

But two (2) votes is a major headscratcher...

Which it shouldn't have if you consider the true "spirit" of the award.

I mean I'm not completely sold on the fact that either one (Rodgers or Brees) was truely the leagues MVP - I'd have to give it some more thought to come up with a better candidate, but if you consider - in relative terms - who was the most valuable player to their particular team, it might not be either of those two.

If Brees isn't the quarterback, you really think any other player could offset that AWFUL defensive effort this season...

Am a Saints fan...

Am a Brees fan...

Am an honest enough critic though of both to say their not getting it done if that's the case...

The Saints results coupled with that last Sunday when Matt Flynn went off made a very sound, convincing argument that Brees was the Most Valuable Player to his team...

Besides, who has a better Pre-Game Ritual of getting his teammates pumped up?

exactly what im thinking about the flynn thing.

Andy Dalton. Took the Bengals to the playoffs.

Of all the great qualities of Brees the one they didn't seem to take into consideration was his most important talent. His leadership.

I'll be honest, I think Sproles should have gotten the nod. He played several positions and excelled in all of them on a brand new team, learning a whole new system. The only mistake he made was the fumble in the playoffs. Then factor in his size, he should not be able to do those things..it's truly remarkable IMO.

I don't view the award as the "most valuable to their own team", I view it as the most valuable player to the NFL, or the best player in the league that year.

The whole argument about how a specific team would do without that player is a weak argument IMO.

Couldn't agree more! 2 votes is a slap in the face of Brees. Just goes to show that breaking records mean nothing. I would have thought that would have at least made it a closer margin. This is what disappoints me the most. I know it don't really matter but I know it matters to Brees.

We thought we just saw a great year from Brees. I am predicting a better one next year. This is the type of stuff that drives a person to prove they are the best.

Agree Mike and Papz.

Rodgers deserved it, but it certainly didn't warrant a landslide. A 60/40 split is about what I expected.

I don't think that the team specific value is a "weak argument" as you so elegantly put it - just another interpretation of what it means to be the "most valuable player."

And I did not state that the AP's NFL MVP award was based on that specification, because it clearly isn't, I was merely speculating on a different perspective to the whole MVP issue.

If you would pick a single player who is deemed the most valuable player to the whole league, you could just as well look up the jersey sales of all players and determine the one with the biggest sales as the most valuable as creating the most revenue to the league (as we know that it is all about the Benjamins in the end).

The way the whole selection process is set at the moment it is nothing more than a glorified popularity contest, and, therefore, none of the stats really matter - only the perceptions and preferences of the individuals casting the votes.

Alas, I agree that in the end making Rodgers the MVP was probably the right decision, but as stated before it should've been closer considering the historical year Brees had.

Once again the footballoutsiders.com provides all of us stat junkies an alternative way of looking at the respective seasons of both Brees and Rodgers:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 QUARTERBACKS

As an simplification they calculated that Brees was the QB with the most total value, but Rodgers was the QB with the most value per play. So it is only a matter of how you want to choose which one was the better overall QB in 2011 (or the more valuable).

Exactly, WTF? That was a total insult.

Put Brees on any of the major market teams and he's a three time MVP winner. Period. The award is a joke unless Danno is right. If it is most valuable to the league then that changes things. But I don't think that's the spirit of the award. That's just my .02. Brees was robbed again.

Well first off, individual awards in a team sport is subjective. Its merely opinion which spurns debate, which can be fun as well as frustrating. Its meaningless in the big picture.

Year in and year out the stars have to align. Of course it's subjective, but it shouldn't be as subjective as it is. Being most valuable doesn't mean you have to have the leagues best record, or at least it shouldn't.

Anybody here think Rodgers was 'more' valuable to his team than Brady? Brees? Hell, even Cam Newton probably had more value. I just don't think there is any defense for this award based on how it is labeled and how votes are cast. As it stands it should be called the "Media Darling QB Award", because as it stands right now it's a joke to call it "MVP", subjective or not.

matt flynn week 17 stats = aaron rodgers overrated

Drew Brees 14 interceptions = Aaron Rodgers deserved it more.

Eli or Brady were better options if it cant be brees. there teams would tank without them

While Brees was breaking Decades-old Records, he threw a few pics more than Rodgers.

Okay Danno. Rodgers deserved it more because of the interception stat. C'mon man...