Saints D-Line: Who Stays, Who Goes

Danno · 02-08-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

But if that is the concern, why aren't the contracts more incentive based in the first place, which would in effect make the players earn their extra salary through performance?

And it probably makes it impossible to plan for next years cap, since contracts would be too variable.

FinSaint · 02-08-2012, 07:36 PM

I wouldn't be totally against seeing Franklin return to the black & gold.

I think he had a hard time adjusting to being a DT in a base 4-3 coming from being a NT in 3-4 system, but he has skills and the ability to be dominant and maybe Spags can get that potential to show up on the field.

The reason why I say this is that he might be available for cheap, because there were not a lot of competition to sign him during last FA period - it came down to him basically re-signing with the SF or signing with the Saints. After the disappointing season he had, it's hard for me to see him getting more attention this time around.

He might be willing to sign another 1-year deal maybe in the $2.5-3M range, which wouldn't totally break the bank while adding a solid performer and creating depth.

Franklin's 2011 cap hit was $4M and if I remember correctly Rogers' cap hit was a touch over $4M - if Frankin re-signed for $3M, that would still leave $5M to try and sign another DT while keeping the DT cap hit the same.

jeanpierre · 02-08-2012, 11:22 PM

Defensive Front Four (Spag 4-3 history)

LDE Free Agent to be Named (Campbell, Avril or Williams)
NT Aubrayo Franklin, FA Red Bryant
3T Cam Jordan, FA Jason Jones
RDE Gallette/Romeus

Rugby Saint II · 02-09-2012, 03:05 PM

We have enough defense ends to trade or cut that we could raise enough capital to afford a proven DT. Ellis is a disappointment to me. No it factor.

02-08-2012, 06:26 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by FinSaint But if that is the concern, why aren't the contracts more incentive based in the first place, which would in effect make the players earn their extra salary through performance? And it probably makes it impossible to plan for next years cap, since contracts would be too variable.

02-08-2012, 07:36 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	I wouldn't be totally against seeing Franklin return to the black & gold. I think he had a hard time adjusting to being a DT in a base 4-3 coming from being a NT in 3-4 system, but he has skills and the ability to be dominant and maybe Spags can get that potential to show up on the field. The reason why I say this is that he might be available for cheap, because there were not a lot of competition to sign him during last FA period - it came down to him basically re-signing with the SF or signing with the Saints. After the disappointing season he had, it's hard for me to see him getting more attention this time around. He might be willing to sign another 1-year deal maybe in the $2.5-3M range, which wouldn't totally break the bank while adding a solid performer and creating depth. Franklin's 2011 cap hit was $4M and if I remember correctly Rogers' cap hit was a touch over $4M - if Frankin re-signed for $3M, that would still leave $5M to try and sign another DT while keeping the DT cap hit the same.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Defensive Front Four (Spag 4-3 history) LDE Free Agent to be Named (Campbell, Avril or Williams) NT Aubrayo Franklin, FA Red Bryant 3T Cam Jordan, FA Jason Jones RDE Gallette/Romeus

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	We have enough defense ends to trade or cut that we could raise enough capital to afford a proven DT. Ellis is a disappointment to me. No it factor.