2012 Draft - Saints Mock Drafts

iceshack149 · 04-27-2012, 09:47 PM

NFL Videos: 2012 Combine workout: Akiem Hicks

I don't recall ever hearing about a college named Regina.
The video doesn't impress me. I know nothing about him. I hope he's good.

jeanpierre · 04-27-2012, 09:58 PM

Sorry, my date got p/o

Not as quick as the brother on tv!

jeanpierre · 04-27-2012, 10:02 PM

Regina - Canadian college football

hagan714 · 04-27-2012, 10:20 PM

we talked about him but round 3? what the heck we got him

jeanpierre · 04-28-2012, 07:41 AM

Hicks was projected as a round six pick. Back in March JCP026 and I both had kind of the same idea.

Big risk in round 3.

Would really liked to had had Hardin - and look who he went - Merde!

Anyways - let's geaux, Rookie!

Geaux

hagan714 · 04-28-2012, 07:56 AM

Round 4 (No. 122 overall)

Joe Adams , WR, Arkansas - We all know him in the SEC. the kid can play. I would love to have him i just do not like his blocking skills. whiffes alot. He needs to hit the weight room.

Ron Brooks CB LSU - how far up will his 4.39 40 push him? 4.3

Tony Bergstrom OT Utah
Bergstrom could be a legitimate option at right tackle. Needs some fine tunning but he is basically as fndementally sound of a RT as there is in the draft. question is how much room is left in his game for improvement. Arm length is a bit on the short side for OT in my book.

Nigel Bradham, OLB, Florida St.stud tackling that that physically you can not really find a hole in his game. the gap is in his instinctual reactions to play developement as a player. stud on special teams for sure.

Deangelo Peterson, LSU 6-3, 243 - Highly under rated TE at LSU stuck with a QB that well did not move through his reads that fast.

Philip Blake, C, Baylor—Blake has some experience at tackle and he's used to a shotgun, pass-oriented offense. a bit sluggish for my liking.

Trenton Robinson, FS, Michigan State—Robinson can cover well and has the ballhawk mentality

Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy - Value pick? heck yeah. you know what your geting. thats the issue here. ceiling in my opion is limited.

Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
ok this dude is just silly quick. water bug. He is a master of the slot. great hands and knows how to get seperation.

My pick is the WTF picks for both goes to

Defense
Chris Greenwood, CB, Albion
Height: 6 -1 1/4
Weight: 193
Arm: 31 5/8
Hand: 9 3/8
Wingspan: 78 1/8
Speed: 4.41
10 yd: 1.58
20 YD Shuttle: 4.15
60 YD Shuttle: 11.50
3- Cone: 6.99
Bench: 16
Vertical: 43
Broad: 11-2

If he is there i say once agian gamble on a true 6' 01" CB that has the ability to stay at CB. Heck even a move to FS if need. Cap issue will follow the saints and the time to build depth is now. The secondary Is coming up quickly for resigning. Plus he has produced 13 career interceptions, with 4 returned for touchdowns. He also works as a punt and kickoff returner. AN ALL AMERICAN 2 YEARS RUNNING

Offense
James Hanna, TE/HB, Oklahoma
Height: 6-3 3/4
Weight: 252
Arm: 33 1/8
Hand: 9 7/8
Wingspan: 77 7/8
Speed: 4.46
10 yd: na
20 YD Shuttle: 4.11
3- Cone: 6.76
225 lb. bench press reps 24
Vertical jump 36.05
Broad jump : 10' 02"

A mid-4.4 runner with the wheels to stretch the field and the hands and moves to make things happen around the goal line.
With good size, he proved he could run even at a bigger size and can still get more physical. He has proved to be far more athletic than he shows on tape with better raw skills and tools than just about any tight end in the draft. However, he didn’t actually do much on deep plays and wasn’t a go-to target.
He’s not a great blocker and he needs a lot of work on his route running ability, but he’s too athletic not to develop

Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
Height: 5-10. Weight: 182.
40 Time: 4.42. 10-Yd Split: 1.45.
Vertical: 38.
Broad: 10-0.
Hand: 8 1/2

i would love to have him as a back up in the slot.

papz · 04-28-2012, 08:09 AM

2012 NFL Draft best players available: Day 3 - Silver And Black Pride

Lots of nice options.

Would love to get my hands on Charles TE, Green TE, or Massie OT. Have always been a big fan of Adams WR.

jeanpierre · 04-28-2012, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by papz

2012 NFL Draft best players available: Day 3 - Silver And Black Pride

Lots of nice options.

Would love to get my hands on Charles TE, Green TE, or Massie OT. Have always been a big fan of Adams WR.

Agree that OT with value would be way to geaux

jeanpierre · 04-30-2012, 04:29 AM

Todd McShay's thoughts on Saints picks...

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

New Orleans Saints

Impact pick: WR Nick Toon (fourth) -- He's not overly explosive and will never be a big-play threat, but Toon is a very good route-runner who understands coverages and can adjust on the move. He's very savvy and will put himself in positions where QB Drew Brees can throw him open. Toon will adjust to balls and make tough plays, and with his hand-eye coordination and boundary awareness he'll be a huge help in the red zone. He could easily work his way into the No. 3 job as a rookie if he can put durability concerns behind him.
Intriguing pick: DT Akiem Hicks (third) -- Strange circumstances during his recruitment by LSU out of junior college led to Hicks leaving the Tigers and landing in Regina, where he simply dominated lesser competition with his sheer physical gifts. Hicks has size and heavy hands, and he moves well for his size. He is as raw as it gets, though, and needs to become more explosive. There are few rookies who stand to gain as much as Hicks from NFL strength/conditioning/nutrition programs, though the Saints likely hope he can spell NT Brodrick Bunkley at times while developing. If Hicks realizes his potential, though, he could become the heir apparent in the middle.

jeanpierre · 04-30-2012, 04:54 AM

Hagan's World (Undrafted Free Agents)

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Top 2012 undrafted free agents

Scouts Inc.

A look at the 10 best undrafted free agents after the 2012 NFL draft:

1. Washington RB Chris Polk
A lack of explosiveness and durability concerns are likely the reasons Polk went undrafted. However, he displays good vision and balance, and is versatile enough in the passing game to potentially bring big returns as a free agent.

2. Troy G James Brown
Brown needs some development in terms of core strength and doesn't always play with consistent pad level. He lacks elite length to line up at tackle but has enough lateral agility to hold up on the interior in a zone blocking scheme.

3. Iowa State CB Leonard Johnson
A lack of size and ideal top-end speed are likely what scared teams away. Still, Johnson is a tough and instinctive defender who does not back down from challenges. He also possesses good ball skills and is willing in run support.

4. Virginia CB Chase Minnifield
Minnifield is one of the more instinctive cover corners in this class. In addition, he has solid ball skills and plays with aggressiveness. He didn't run as fast as teams would like, though, and that combined with microfracture surgery on his knee are the main reasons for his fall on draft weekend.

5. Tennessee RB Tauren Poole
Poole is slightly undersized and lacks juice as a runner. However, he possesses excellent vision and patience as a runner, and consistently gets the most from carries. Poole has a chance to go into a camp and earn a spot on a roster as a change-of-pace reserve back.

6. Furman CB Ryan Steed
Steed has adequate size, and is a tough competitor who is at his best getting physical and disrupting a receiver's release in press coverage. His lack of speed and struggles against upper-echelon competition might have scared teams away, but he's worth a look as a priority free agent who could develop into a solid reserve and special teams contributor on the back end of a roster.

7. Arkansas State S Kelcie McCray
McCray is a flexible, smooth athlete who shows good range in coverage. However, lack of instincts and strength, along with inconsistent tackling in run support, caused him to slip down the board.

8. BYU OT Matt Reynolds
Reynolds lacks elite athleticism and lateral agility, and is a bit heavy-footed. He has good size, though, and is fundamentally sound. He also has the versatility to line up at both guard and tackle to add depth to an offensive line.

9. Syracuse S Phillip Thomas
Thomas is undersized, and lacks elite top-end speed and overall range. However, he has excellent instincts and ball skills to capitalize when he is able to get into position. In addition, he takes solid angles and is reliable in run support.

10. Iowa OT Markus Zusevics
Zusevics lacks elite athleticism but has the strength, toughness and aggressiveness to develop into an adequate reserve at right tackle or move inside to guard.

04-28-2012, 07:56 AM	#136
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Round 4 (No. 122 overall) Joe Adams , WR, Arkansas - We all know him in the SEC. the kid can play. I would love to have him i just do not like his blocking skills. whiffes alot. He needs to hit the weight room. Ron Brooks CB LSU - how far up will his 4.39 40 push him? 4.3 Tony Bergstrom OT Utah Bergstrom could be a legitimate option at right tackle. Needs some fine tunning but he is basically as fndementally sound of a RT as there is in the draft. question is how much room is left in his game for improvement. Arm length is a bit on the short side for OT in my book. Nigel Bradham, OLB, Florida St.stud tackling that that physically you can not really find a hole in his game. the gap is in his instinctual reactions to play developement as a player. stud on special teams for sure. Deangelo Peterson, LSU 6-3, 243 - Highly under rated TE at LSU stuck with a QB that well did not move through his reads that fast. Philip Blake, C, Baylor—Blake has some experience at tackle and he's used to a shotgun, pass-oriented offense. a bit sluggish for my liking. Trenton Robinson, FS, Michigan State—Robinson can cover well and has the ballhawk mentality Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy - Value pick? heck yeah. you know what your geting. thats the issue here. ceiling in my opion is limited. Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas ok this dude is just silly quick. water bug. He is a master of the slot. great hands and knows how to get seperation. My pick is the WTF picks for both goes to Defense Chris Greenwood, CB, Albion Height: 6 -1 1/4 Weight: 193 Arm: 31 5/8 Hand: 9 3/8 Wingspan: 78 1/8 Speed: 4.41 10 yd: 1.58 20 YD Shuttle: 4.15 60 YD Shuttle: 11.50 3- Cone: 6.99 Bench: 16 Vertical: 43 Broad: 11-2 If he is there i say once agian gamble on a true 6' 01" CB that has the ability to stay at CB. Heck even a move to FS if need. Cap issue will follow the saints and the time to build depth is now. The secondary Is coming up quickly for resigning. Plus he has produced 13 career interceptions, with 4 returned for touchdowns. He also works as a punt and kickoff returner. AN ALL AMERICAN 2 YEARS RUNNING Offense James Hanna, TE/HB, Oklahoma Height: 6-3 3/4 Weight: 252 Arm: 33 1/8 Hand: 9 7/8 Wingspan: 77 7/8 Speed: 4.46 10 yd: na 20 YD Shuttle: 4.11 3- Cone: 6.76 225 lb. bench press reps 24 Vertical jump 36.05 Broad jump : 10' 02" A mid-4.4 runner with the wheels to stretch the field and the hands and moves to make things happen around the goal line. With good size, he proved he could run even at a bigger size and can still get more physical. He has proved to be far more athletic than he shows on tape with better raw skills and tools than just about any tight end in the draft. However, he didn’t actually do much on deep plays and wasn’t a go-to target. He’s not a great blocker and he needs a lot of work on his route running ability, but he’s too athletic not to develop Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas Height: 5-10. Weight: 182. 40 Time: 4.42. 10-Yd Split: 1.45. Vertical: 38. Broad: 10-0. Hand: 8 1/2 i would love to have him as a back up in the slot.
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04-28-2012, 07:40 PM	#138
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by papz 2012 NFL Draft best players available: Day 3 - Silver And Black Pride Lots of nice options. Would love to get my hands on Charles TE, Green TE, or Massie OT. Have always been a big fan of Adams WR. Agree that OT with value would be way to geaux

04-30-2012, 04:29 AM	#139
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Todd McShay's thoughts on Saints picks... Originally Posted by jeanpierre New Orleans Saints Impact pick: WR Nick Toon (fourth) -- He's not overly explosive and will never be a big-play threat, but Toon is a very good route-runner who understands coverages and can adjust on the move. He's very savvy and will put himself in positions where QB Drew Brees can throw him open. Toon will adjust to balls and make tough plays, and with his hand-eye coordination and boundary awareness he'll be a huge help in the red zone. He could easily work his way into the No. 3 job as a rookie if he can put durability concerns behind him. Intriguing pick: DT Akiem Hicks (third) -- Strange circumstances during his recruitment by LSU out of junior college led to Hicks leaving the Tigers and landing in Regina, where he simply dominated lesser competition with his sheer physical gifts. Hicks has size and heavy hands, and he moves well for his size. He is as raw as it gets, though, and needs to become more explosive. There are few rookies who stand to gain as much as Hicks from NFL strength/conditioning/nutrition programs, though the Saints likely hope he can spell NT Brodrick Bunkley at times while developing. If Hicks realizes his potential, though, he could become the heir apparent in the middle.

04-30-2012, 04:54 AM	#140
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Hagan's World (Undrafted Free Agents) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Top 2012 undrafted free agents Scouts Inc. A look at the 10 best undrafted free agents after the 2012 NFL draft: 1. Washington RB Chris Polk A lack of explosiveness and durability concerns are likely the reasons Polk went undrafted. However, he displays good vision and balance, and is versatile enough in the passing game to potentially bring big returns as a free agent. 2. Troy G James Brown Brown needs some development in terms of core strength and doesn't always play with consistent pad level. He lacks elite length to line up at tackle but has enough lateral agility to hold up on the interior in a zone blocking scheme. 3. Iowa State CB Leonard Johnson A lack of size and ideal top-end speed are likely what scared teams away. Still, Johnson is a tough and instinctive defender who does not back down from challenges. He also possesses good ball skills and is willing in run support. 4. Virginia CB Chase Minnifield Minnifield is one of the more instinctive cover corners in this class. In addition, he has solid ball skills and plays with aggressiveness. He didn't run as fast as teams would like, though, and that combined with microfracture surgery on his knee are the main reasons for his fall on draft weekend. 5. Tennessee RB Tauren Poole Poole is slightly undersized and lacks juice as a runner. However, he possesses excellent vision and patience as a runner, and consistently gets the most from carries. Poole has a chance to go into a camp and earn a spot on a roster as a change-of-pace reserve back. 6. Furman CB Ryan Steed Steed has adequate size, and is a tough competitor who is at his best getting physical and disrupting a receiver's release in press coverage. His lack of speed and struggles against upper-echelon competition might have scared teams away, but he's worth a look as a priority free agent who could develop into a solid reserve and special teams contributor on the back end of a roster. 7. Arkansas State S Kelcie McCray McCray is a flexible, smooth athlete who shows good range in coverage. However, lack of instincts and strength, along with inconsistent tackling in run support, caused him to slip down the board. 8. BYU OT Matt Reynolds Reynolds lacks elite athleticism and lateral agility, and is a bit heavy-footed. He has good size, though, and is fundamentally sound. He also has the versatility to line up at both guard and tackle to add depth to an offensive line. 9. Syracuse S Phillip Thomas Thomas is undersized, and lacks elite top-end speed and overall range. However, he has excellent instincts and ball skills to capitalize when he is able to get into position. In addition, he takes solid angles and is reliable in run support. 10. Iowa OT Markus Zusevics Zusevics lacks elite athleticism but has the strength, toughness and aggressiveness to develop into an adequate reserve at right tackle or move inside to guard.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	we talked about him but round 3? what the heck we got him

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Hicks was projected as a round six pick. Back in March JCP026 and I both had kind of the same idea. Big risk in round 3. Would really liked to had had Hardin - and look who he went - Merde! Anyways - let's geaux, Rookie! Geaux

04-28-2012, 08:09 AM	#137
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	2012 NFL Draft best players available: Day 3 - Silver And Black Pride Lots of nice options. Would love to get my hands on Charles TE, Green TE, or Massie OT. Have always been a big fan of Adams WR.