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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by The Dude Yea Greer stays. If any of our corners go it will be Porter. Is there a way we can get something for Vilma, Smith, and Porter in a trade that wouldnt **** with our cap? ...

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Old 02-14-2012, 03:54 AM   #11
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Yea Greer stays. If any of our corners go it will be Porter. Is there a way we can get something for Vilma, Smith, and Porter in a trade that wouldnt **** with our cap?

Not really, and Porter is an UFA.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:41 AM   #12
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I'm not getting rid of Greer if we do that were starting back over with we needing to get a starting corner. Look until we get a pass rush we can't just throw anybody back there and hope they make a play.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:53 AM   #13
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Agree we need to keep Greer and Harper should go via a trade for a lineman or some draft picks. Also Ellis needs to go wish we could get a strong safety for him. Hope the concentrate on defensive players and see if they can pick up one good offensive lineman that could relieve the others.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:03 AM   #14
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I agree with these choices. Regarding Greer, it is always curious how a player will work out in a new scheme.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:52 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
I have no idea what you guys are reading but all I could see was a rundown of how we lost the 49ers game
They don't tell you who the players are until you get to page 2.

edit: ignore this message....I didn't see your later post.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:00 AM   #16
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Hmmm no mention of releasing some of the dead wight on the line besides Smith? Instead would rather release the best CB on our team...do they get paid to write this stuff?
I believe Franklin and Rogers only had 1 year deals so there wouldn't be any need for releasing only resigning if Spags wanted either of them.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:46 AM   #17
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Agree we need to keep Greer and Harper should go via a trade for a lineman or some draft picks. Also Ellis needs to go wish we could get a strong safety for him. Hope the concentrate on defensive players and see if they can pick up one good offensive lineman that could relieve the others.

Trading players isn't done every day in the NFL like in some other major sports leagues in North America, so I wouldn't expect the Saints to make any "player for a player" type trade deals if any.

Trading Harper is out of question, because he is only entering his second year of the new big contract and, therefore, the cap hit would be unreasonable to warrant a trade.

I doubt anyone wants to make a trade for Eliis with his current contract only being for one more year at $6M, if the Saints were able to restructure his contract to be more attractive that would be another situation completely, but then they'd run into the same problem with guaranteed money which would make a trade highly unlikely.

I guess trading for Ellis would only be attractive to a team that needs to get to the salary cap floor and with Ellis they'd know he'd be off the books come next season, but I think there are better such options available with a better value in the actual player in comparison to his salary.

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Old 02-14-2012, 10:04 AM   #18
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Getting rid of Greer is a terrible idea, Will Smith needs to restructure or be released, same with Ellis and Vilma. I could see Devery being cut if the plan is to bring back Colston and Meachem but this team needs at least one deep threat to keep the middle and short routes open
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:15 AM   #19
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The only ones that I see going is Smith and Vilma unless they restructure. I could see both doing that too. At this point they both know they are up in years and have made their money. Super Bowl and finishing their career on a winning team should be first on their mind. Cut their pay in half and keep them in a rotation or load it with incentives. Porter will be gone. His play dropped off and Robinson and Patrick would be a nice fill in. All three big boys will be signed.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:10 PM   #20
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for the love of god stop gutting the defense and starting over.

Spags clam to fame is winning with what he has. then adding and subtracting in small moves. ie draft and maybe a FA or two. Look to next year for any really major moves if there is any to be made
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