Ivory a trade candidate?

The Dude · 02-16-2012, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Ivory is very cheap, contract-wise, but I really don't think anyone is going to give up much for him
I'd rather have him than a fifth rounder that would probably cost more anyways

Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad.

BGWhoDat · 02-16-2012, 10:22 PM

I'm with that. We definitely don't need anyone to fill that roster spot.

The Saints have the most depth at the running back position in the NFL. It allows players to remain healthy. On top of that, it creates a bit of trouble when preparing for a game for opponents since they have to prepare for all the threats. Each play has different strengths and skill set.

It works. No reason to fix it at all. Finished 8th in rushing in the NFL this season and we're only getting better. A stronger run game opens up our passing game. Evidence was this past season.

jeanpierre · 02-17-2012, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad.

Has everyone forgotten that we ran out of running backs in the playoffs against Seattle?

ScottF · 02-17-2012, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Has everyone forgotten that we ran out of running backs in the playoffs against Seattle?

No one has forgotten it, but that was an anomaly, and we didn't lose to Seattle because of our running game.

4 starting RB's is BEYOND a luxury... does another NFL team have even 3?
We continue to spend money on offense, and then we cannot stop Hasselback or Smith, or whoever started for the Rams.
These guys are being talked about as trade bait because we have needs elsewhere, and money is very tight this year

FinSaint · 02-17-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

No one has forgotten it, but that was an anomaly, and we didn't lose to Seattle because of our running game.

4 starting RB's is BEYOND a luxury... does another NFL team have even 3?
We continue to spend money on offense, and then we cannot stop Hasselback or Smith, or whoever started for the Rams.
These guys are being talked about as trade bait because we have needs elsewhere, and money is very tight this year

Ivory will have a cap hit of $490K next season, so it's not like trading him will create cap room - only reason to trade him would be if the roster spot was desperately needed for someone else.

Sproles' cap hit for 2012 will be around $3.5M, PT's cap hit will be $2.3M, and Ingram's cap hit will be around $810K.

They're all very affordable for what they can (and consistently do) bring to the field every single week and, therefore, there isn't much money to be saved on that front.

Also I could imagine it being fairly expensive if the Saints had to bring in another good/great RB during the season if they were to run into some injury problems, and had earlier let one of these RBs go.

UK_WhoDat · 02-18-2012, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad.

Agreed

02-16-2012, 10:16 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Originally Posted by ScottF Ivory is very cheap, contract-wise, but I really don't think anyone is going to give up much for him I'd rather have him than a fifth rounder that would probably cost more anyways Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad.
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02-17-2012, 06:13 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by The Dude Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad. Has everyone forgotten that we ran out of running backs in the playoffs against Seattle?

02-17-2012, 11:41 AM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Has everyone forgotten that we ran out of running backs in the playoffs against Seattle? No one has forgotten it, but that was an anomaly, and we didn't lose to Seattle because of our running game. 4 starting RB's is BEYOND a luxury... does another NFL team have even 3? We continue to spend money on offense, and then we cannot stop Hasselback or Smith, or whoever started for the Rams. These guys are being talked about as trade bait because we have needs elsewhere, and money is very tight this year

02-17-2012, 12:06 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by ScottF No one has forgotten it, but that was an anomaly, and we didn't lose to Seattle because of our running game. 4 starting RB's is BEYOND a luxury... does another NFL team have even 3? We continue to spend money on offense, and then we cannot stop Hasselback or Smith, or whoever started for the Rams. These guys are being talked about as trade bait because we have needs elsewhere, and money is very tight this year Ivory will have a cap hit of $490K next season, so it's not like trading him will create cap room - only reason to trade him would be if the roster spot was desperately needed for someone else. Sproles' cap hit for 2012 will be around $3.5M, PT's cap hit will be $2.3M, and Ingram's cap hit will be around $810K. They're all very affordable for what they can (and consistently do) bring to the field every single week and, therefore, there isn't much money to be saved on that front. Also I could imagine it being fairly expensive if the Saints had to bring in another good/great RB during the season if they were to run into some injury problems, and had earlier let one of these RBs go.
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02-18-2012, 11:44 AM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Originally Posted by The Dude Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad. Agreed

02-16-2012, 10:22 PM	#2
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	I'm with that. We definitely don't need anyone to fill that roster spot. The Saints have the most depth at the running back position in the NFL. It allows players to remain healthy. On top of that, it creates a bit of trouble when preparing for a game for opponents since they have to prepare for all the threats. Each play has different strengths and skill set. It works. No reason to fix it at all. Finished 8th in rushing in the NFL this season and we're only getting better. A stronger run game opens up our passing game. Evidence was this past season.

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